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the smoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8 1947

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flying bist has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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i occasionally think how quickly

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black with your host

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i need your help to get to the year

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night fade to black

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bespoke radio

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how you doing today is monday october

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2021 283 days into the new year only 82

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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man man man i gotta put a lock on that

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i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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i did that on purpose how you guys doing

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i'm your host jimmy church

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tonight kicking off another amazing week

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here on fade to black tonight dr robert

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davis is here

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doing all of that tonight with uh with

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night right here on this program paul

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next month next month i will be in

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laughlin nevada for the star wars usa

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and take you straight to star works if

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you click on the link below and we've

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so uh let's move on follow me on twitter

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at jay church radio hello to everybody

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that is out there right now

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october 31st okay all right

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f2b is the sandbox

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auditorium where van halen played 14

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netherlands to pasadena in 1962.

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alex and eddie van halen attended

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together with eddie on guitar and alex

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on drums years later the brothers formed

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the band man halen along with basis

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center regarded as one of the most

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successful bands of all time van halen

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will forever be remembered for

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reinventing rock and roll and their

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oh man van halen at the civic center

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but very cool i'm so happy uh to see

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that that happened and pasadena uh

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so there you go all right nasa's

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next asteroid-bound mission to explore

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the earliest days of our solar system is

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nearly ready to launch

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the lucy that's what it's called

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the lucy spacecraft is targeting a

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as the planet jupiter

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lucy and i know you're wondering about

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this lucy

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is named after that famous early

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humanoid skeleton that is roughly 3.2

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million years old the discovery of which

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has long been considered as a keystone

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in understanding human evolution

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there you go

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well uh

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some more big news

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a notice

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has been posted on the national press

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club website announcing that robert

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salas

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will bring together military witnesses

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to inform the media about nuclear

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weapons tampering in the presence

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of uaps

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ufos that's right this press conference

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will be produced by robert hastings

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author of ufos and nukes extraordinary

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encounters at nuclear weapons sites and

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of course bob salas co-author of faded

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giant

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all of this taking place on tuesday

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october 19th a week from tomorrow 2021

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at the national press club in washington

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dc

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things kick off at 8 30 a.m eastern time

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and i believe

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that bob is going to stream the event

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only

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on his youtube channel uh that youtube

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link has not been released to me yet i

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talked to bob on thursday of last week

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he's gonna release that soon okay all

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right

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let's get this show cracking

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happy birthday to today one of my

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favorites one of the funniest

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joan cusack

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today 58 years old

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and uh if you ever wonder

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you know just how funny

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how great is joan cusack uh two movies

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that you need to peep out

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my blue heaven

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right there

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and gross point blank

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all right there

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i

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may be her best work too

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daryl hall i cannot believe i'm about to

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say what i'm about to say

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daryl hall hall of notes daryl hall

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today

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is 75 years old

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right

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think about that sarah's smile

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she's gone

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oh man man eater right

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uh what was that another one i can't go

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you can tell i should have been a singer

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i should have been a singer

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our dead guy's birthday today is

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art blakey

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that's right 1919 to 1990 died at the

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age of 71.

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art was one of the greatest drummers

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in music history played with the best

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including

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played with monk thelonious monk played

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with charlie parker dizzy gillespie

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freddy friggin hubbard wayne shorter

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hank mobley chuck maggione chick correa

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keith

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jarrett right and even wynton marsalis

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that's right

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art was inducted into the grammy hall of

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fame and awarded the grammy lifetime

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achievement award he died in manhattan

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on october 16 1990 of lung cancer five

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days after his 71st birthday at st

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vinson's hospital

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and medical center happy birthday art

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it's just just just one of the greatest

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period

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on this day in history 1968.

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it went down 1968

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apollo 7

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the first manned apollo mission

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launched an 11-day orbit of the earth

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during which the crew transmitted the

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first live television broadcast

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from orbit

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on this day in 1968 unbelievable

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think about what you know how how far

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the space program went

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from 61 62 63 to 68 five years six years

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joan is the absolute funniest she is

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she is

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casually said her blakey is the best he

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well done pasadena man i love twitter

391
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twitter's so cool fade or notch made

392
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made twitter just just an unbelievable

393
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place to hang out all right hashtag f2b

394
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go go check out the sandbox

395
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all right uh

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oh oh

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fader fact

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i'm not making this up yeah one of the

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bestest movies ever it's no doubt about

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it gross point blank i love that movie

401
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i mean you know what in girls point

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blank uh i've got stuff i need to

403
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discuss here folks

404
00:21:06,149 --> 00:21:02,480
but

405
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in gross point blank

406
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there is a moment

407
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um at the high school reunion dance

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and john cusack you know he's a hit man

409
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and he shows up at the dance and

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um

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uh

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this this old school mate of his it

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turns out to be

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his sister

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ann cusack

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um has a baby

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and uh little little little

418
00:21:37,190 --> 00:21:34,000
you know i don't know a couple months

419
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old hands the baby to cusack

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the hitman right he's holding the baby

421
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but at that moment

422
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uh

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i i think it's under pressure right it's

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queen

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and

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00:21:56,870 --> 00:21:54,640
movie it's just killer so funny it's

427
00:21:59,190 --> 00:21:56,880
just great uh start to finish but that

428
00:22:00,549 --> 00:21:59,200
that scene is uh pretty cool all right

429
00:22:02,950 --> 00:22:00,559
where am i

430
00:22:05,909 --> 00:22:02,960
where where where was i going oh fader

431
00:22:12,070 --> 00:22:08,710
can you tell i partied all weekend

432
00:22:14,310 --> 00:22:12,080
fader fact

433
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in the amish

434
00:22:19,590 --> 00:22:16,159
amish

435
00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:19,600
called

436
00:22:25,669 --> 00:22:24,080
renault that's r-e-n-n-o check it out

437
00:22:28,390 --> 00:22:25,679
the men

438
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only wear

439
00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:39,750
one

440
00:22:44,950 --> 00:22:43,120
glove right

441
00:22:46,789 --> 00:22:44,960
all right there you go

442
00:22:48,549 --> 00:22:46,799
tonight very special guest dr robert

443
00:22:51,190 --> 00:22:48,559
davis is here we're going to be

444
00:22:54,149 --> 00:22:51,200
discussing my three favorite subjects

445
00:22:55,430 --> 00:22:54,159
science consciousness and e.t contact

446
00:22:58,070 --> 00:22:55,440
we're going to be doing all of that

447
00:23:00,549 --> 00:22:58,080
tonight in the nature of our and your

448
00:23:02,310 --> 00:23:00,559
reality so that's tonight tomorrow night

449
00:23:03,750 --> 00:23:02,320
paul heineck is here

450
00:23:06,310 --> 00:23:03,760
calling the show tomorrow night the new

451
00:23:07,669 --> 00:23:06,320
blue book where am i going with that

452
00:23:09,990 --> 00:23:07,679
what are we going to be talking about

453
00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:10,000
paul check it out tomorrow night

454
00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:12,960
and uh wednesday night isaac arthur is

455
00:23:16,549 --> 00:23:14,320
back with us

456
00:23:17,990 --> 00:23:16,559
and uh i i gotta tell you

457
00:23:21,669 --> 00:23:18,000
um we're gonna be talking about the

458
00:23:25,110 --> 00:23:21,679
physics of a tic tac on wednesday night

459
00:23:28,710 --> 00:23:25,120
last night i was uh talking to isaac

460
00:23:30,870 --> 00:23:28,720
and we just got hung up

461
00:23:33,909 --> 00:23:30,880
it seemed like forever it was a late

462
00:23:37,669 --> 00:23:33,919
night phone call too just talking about

463
00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:37,679
science and physics and e.t and contact

464
00:23:42,230 --> 00:23:39,600
it was just an incredible conversation i

465
00:23:44,230 --> 00:23:42,240
kept talking isaac stop stop stop

466
00:23:47,269 --> 00:23:44,240
stop this is the show

467
00:23:48,310 --> 00:23:47,279
but yeah so great and uh i love isaac

468
00:23:49,830 --> 00:23:48,320
all right

469
00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:49,840
and uh thursday night's another fader

470
00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:51,360
night with open lines all night long

471
00:23:56,789 --> 00:23:54,240
okay windy here in hawaii that's from

472
00:23:58,310 --> 00:23:56,799
george back

473
00:24:04,390 --> 00:23:58,320
yeah i think it's windy everywhere i

474
00:24:10,230 --> 00:24:06,549
did you guys see the news

475
00:24:14,310 --> 00:24:13,269
the coldest

476
00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:14,320
record

477
00:24:20,230 --> 00:24:18,000
ever was just set in antarctica

478
00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:20,240
wait a bit i thought it was melting down

479
00:24:23,510 --> 00:24:21,760
there

480
00:24:25,269 --> 00:24:23,520
what happened to global warming i'm not

481
00:24:26,870 --> 00:24:25,279
saying anything don't don't go there

482
00:24:30,149 --> 00:24:26,880
save your email

483
00:24:34,630 --> 00:24:32,149
i can't figure things out man i just

484
00:24:36,630 --> 00:24:34,640
can't do it all right

485
00:24:38,470 --> 00:24:36,640
river moon coffee

486
00:24:43,909 --> 00:24:38,480
river moon wellness

487
00:24:49,590 --> 00:24:47,510
like my coffee doc so um

488
00:24:53,590 --> 00:24:49,600
you know i had to sleep over

489
00:24:55,750 --> 00:24:53,600
and uh yesterday morning and uh

490
00:24:57,669 --> 00:24:55,760
i'm out on on the back patio and

491
00:24:59,750 --> 00:24:57,679
somebody says you want some coffees yeah

492
00:25:03,510 --> 00:24:59,760
okay i was gonna make coffee they were

493
00:25:06,310 --> 00:25:03,520
brewing coffee i went in and they just

494
00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:06,320
broke into the fade to black

495
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oh

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00:25:14,230 --> 00:25:12,559
so funny

497
00:25:17,510 --> 00:25:14,240
like they were calling my bluff of

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00:25:19,590 --> 00:25:17,520
course they found it too it was stashed

499
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you know and it was really funny i just

500
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kind of let things go

501
00:25:59,110 --> 00:25:22,799
i

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and uh

503
00:26:04,630 --> 00:26:02,480
seven seconds ago i take that back

504
00:26:07,269 --> 00:26:04,640
time

505
00:26:11,830 --> 00:26:09,510
well honestly nobody knows

506
00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:11,840
okay there's lots of theories out there

507
00:26:17,430 --> 00:26:14,240
lots of explanations

508
00:26:19,430 --> 00:26:17,440
got all that from some very smart people

509
00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:19,440
but

510
00:26:22,830 --> 00:26:20,480
just

511
00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:22,840
none of that works for

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00:26:27,510 --> 00:26:24,960
me now

513
00:26:30,390 --> 00:26:27,520
let me explain something

514
00:26:32,630 --> 00:26:30,400
anybody that knows me knows that

515
00:26:34,870 --> 00:26:32,640
i collect watches i've got clocks all

516
00:26:36,789 --> 00:26:34,880
over the place i've got watches

517
00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:36,799
i've got a case of watches there i've

518
00:26:42,070 --> 00:26:40,320
got boxes of watches over there

519
00:26:43,510 --> 00:26:42,080
anywhere you go

520
00:26:45,669 --> 00:26:43,520
you just kind of look around you'll see

521
00:26:47,430 --> 00:26:45,679
a watch you'll see watches and drawers

522
00:26:50,310 --> 00:26:47,440
and and i do that on purpose i just want

523
00:26:52,950 --> 00:26:50,320
to be reminded of of time

524
00:26:56,549 --> 00:26:52,960
right everywhere

525
00:26:58,549 --> 00:26:56,559
and i've gone through a strange personal

526
00:27:00,549 --> 00:26:58,559
experience with it over the last 10

527
00:27:01,909 --> 00:27:00,559
years or so and

528
00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:01,919
in that

529
00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:04,559
time has blasted by so fast

530
00:27:08,310 --> 00:27:06,240
that i can't really get a hold of it

531
00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:08,320
anymore i can't i can't seem to slow it

532
00:27:12,149 --> 00:27:10,159
down and i've been trying to find a way

533
00:27:14,549 --> 00:27:12,159
to slow it down

534
00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:14,559
but i can't

535
00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:22,070
but my internal clock has changed over

536
00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:24,000
the last year

537
00:27:28,470 --> 00:27:25,039
and

538
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:28,480
uh especially like the last six months

539
00:27:33,430 --> 00:27:30,960
because in the past i could sleep in

540
00:27:35,350 --> 00:27:33,440
it was not it was never a problem

541
00:27:36,950 --> 00:27:35,360
i could sleep in

542
00:27:38,549 --> 00:27:36,960
if i got up in the morning i could go

543
00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:38,559
back to back and sleep for another four

544
00:27:41,110 --> 00:27:39,520
hours

545
00:27:42,389 --> 00:27:41,120
i don't do that now

546
00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:42,399
i can't

547
00:27:46,389 --> 00:27:44,960
now i get up at eight am no matter what

548
00:27:47,430 --> 00:27:46,399
doesn't matter how much sleep that i've

549
00:27:50,470 --> 00:27:47,440
had

550
00:27:55,990 --> 00:27:50,480
but i've done this on purpose

551
00:27:58,389 --> 00:27:56,000
i'm trying to slow things back down

552
00:28:01,669 --> 00:27:58,399
i want to live

553
00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:01,679
and experience more of each day

554
00:28:07,029 --> 00:28:03,600
i do

555
00:28:10,389 --> 00:28:07,039
there's another part to this and now i i

556
00:28:13,190 --> 00:28:10,399
i cannot if i get up at 8 a.m

557
00:28:15,990 --> 00:28:13,200
i i cannot get back to sleep

558
00:28:18,149 --> 00:28:16,000
i just can't do it and and i have told

559
00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:18,159
myself

560
00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:20,880
experience all of the day that you can

561
00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:23,520
but our brain

562
00:28:27,990 --> 00:28:25,120
is set

563
00:28:30,630 --> 00:28:28,000
to a 24-hour clock

564
00:28:32,870 --> 00:28:30,640
and there's a couple of weird things

565
00:28:33,830 --> 00:28:32,880
about this and and how we experience

566
00:28:37,029 --> 00:28:33,840
time

567
00:28:38,950 --> 00:28:37,039
because if you are not um seeing the sun

568
00:28:41,830 --> 00:28:38,960
come up or go down

569
00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:41,840
and you're in a cave or you close all

570
00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:43,440
the way and you just

571
00:28:49,590 --> 00:28:46,640
cut everything off from civilization

572
00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:49,600
you your body your brain yourself

573
00:28:54,710 --> 00:28:53,039
everything is on a 24-hour clock

574
00:28:56,870 --> 00:28:54,720
you can't change that it's part of

575
00:28:58,389 --> 00:28:56,880
evolution in the cycle of the sun

576
00:29:01,510 --> 00:28:58,399
day and night

577
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and this is the reason for that

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and if you

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start to recognize this maybe you

580
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can start to slow time down again

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cells and it doesn't matter plants

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insects

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animals mammals fish

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us it doesn't matter cells

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found out something very early on

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that

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if they did their thing during the day

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divided and you know they're doing their

589
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things and they're replicating

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reproducing

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that process would get killed

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by the sun

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radiation oh

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it was never successful

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at night

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when there's no sun

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all of those reproduction cycles

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there you go

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and our body is on an internal clock

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that is part of our dna and the rest of

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the world runs the exact same way

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that's it

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so even if you don't see the sun

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your body is still going to go through

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that same cycle it's going to be on that

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same clock

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it's just the way that it is

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and if you try to alter that

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like

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sleep too much sleep during the day do

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that you're messing things up

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and suddenly

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life blows by you

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speeds up

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you don't want to do that

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um you know sleeping

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00:30:52,149 --> 00:30:49,520
half of the week

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00:30:52,950 --> 00:30:52,159
you're you're experiencing

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half

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of what the reality is

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you're speeding things up

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think about that

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so that's what i have done

624
00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:04,480
and i want to continue this so my

625
00:31:10,389 --> 00:31:07,440
experiment is i need to slow things down

626
00:31:11,430 --> 00:31:10,399
i need to slow down my weeks blow by so

627
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fast

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you know and and i've noticed it i've

629
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absolutely the last 10 years were a blur

630
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it's like

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it seems like a weak day to me

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not a week not a month like a week day

633
00:31:29,269 --> 00:31:27,519
like it never even happened i got to

634
00:31:31,509 --> 00:31:29,279
slow it back down i got to get that

635
00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:31,519
anticipation back

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00:31:33,990 --> 00:31:32,640
yeah

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time

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and uh i'm going to talk more about this

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tomorrow night this is fade to black i

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am your host jimmy church tonight

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dr robert davis is here we're going to

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be talking about science consciousness

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e.t contact we're going to get all of

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that in tonight really looking forward

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to this so stay right there tomorrow

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00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:55,279
night paul heineck

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wednesday night isaac arthur and of

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course thursday night is another fader

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night with open lines all night long

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time to lose

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nine out of ten geneticists agree

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fade to black

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is not

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your father's radio show

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on the game changer radio network

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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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00:36:42,390 --> 00:36:38,720
you're listening to jimmy's

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00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:44,270
what's up i'm chris what up this

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00:37:04,390 --> 00:36:48,610
is jimmy church radio

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00:37:07,829 --> 00:37:06,069
all right welcome back fade to black i

752
00:37:10,390 --> 00:37:07,839
am your host jimmy church tonight dr

753
00:37:13,430 --> 00:37:10,400
robert davis joins us tomorrow night

754
00:37:15,829 --> 00:37:13,440
paul heineck is here wednesday night

755
00:37:17,349 --> 00:37:15,839
isaac arthur thursday night is another

756
00:37:20,470 --> 00:37:17,359
fader night with open lines all night

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00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:20,480
long tonight it's all about bob

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00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:23,520
it's all about bob he's joining us and

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00:37:28,150 --> 00:37:26,800
we are going to talk a full evening

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00:37:31,190 --> 00:37:28,160
consciousness

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00:37:33,349 --> 00:37:31,200
science contact the nature of our

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00:37:35,750 --> 00:37:33,359
reality he's an internationally

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00:37:37,910 --> 00:37:35,760
recognized research scientist and author

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and after receiving his doctorate degree

765
00:37:42,150 --> 00:37:40,640
in 1981 he conducted research taught and

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was an administrator for the state

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00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:44,800
university of new york for over 30 years

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00:37:48,710 --> 00:37:46,800
bob has spoken about his research on the

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00:37:51,430 --> 00:37:48,720
effects of the environmental and toxic

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00:37:53,589 --> 00:37:51,440
stimuli on the brain and sensory systems

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00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:53,599
and venues that vary from national and

772
00:37:58,710 --> 00:37:56,240
international scientific conferences to

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00:38:01,589 --> 00:37:58,720
over 60 published research articles and

774
00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:01,599
scholarly journals since his retirement

775
00:38:06,150 --> 00:38:04,000
he has spoken on over 100 national and

776
00:38:08,470 --> 00:38:06,160
international radio shows and podcasts

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00:38:10,390 --> 00:38:08,480
about his recent research publications

778
00:38:13,109 --> 00:38:10,400
on the science of subjective

779
00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:13,119
and human consciousness he has written

780
00:38:17,430 --> 00:38:14,880
three books unseen forces the

781
00:38:19,510 --> 00:38:17,440
integration of science reality and you

782
00:38:21,430 --> 00:38:19,520
life after death and analysis of

783
00:38:24,390 --> 00:38:21,440
evidence and of course the ufo

784
00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:24,400
phenomenon should i believe he is

785
00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:25,920
currently in pre-production we're going

786
00:38:30,470 --> 00:38:28,400
to talk about this on a project with

787
00:38:32,950 --> 00:38:30,480
emmy award-winning and

788
00:38:35,990 --> 00:38:32,960
fellow fate or not television producer

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00:38:38,910 --> 00:38:36,000
and cinematographer david beatty of

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00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:38,920
dreamtime entertainment and of course

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00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:41,200
bobdavisspeaks.com is the website the

792
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links are over at jimmychurtrtradio.com

793
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i'd like to welcome well sort of back to

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00:38:50,950 --> 00:38:48,640
fade to black it's been a while too dr

795
00:38:53,589 --> 00:38:50,960
bob davis bob good evening how are you

796
00:38:55,030 --> 00:38:53,599
sir oh good evening to you and good

797
00:38:57,270 --> 00:38:55,040
evening everybody but i'll tell you the

798
00:39:00,470 --> 00:38:57,280
truth jimmy i never thought i'd have a

799
00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:00,480
fate or not as a co-producer on a film

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00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:02,240
regarding consciousness i mean that's

801
00:39:06,950 --> 00:39:04,560
the last thing i i think of but it's a

802
00:39:09,349 --> 00:39:06,960
pleasure uh to be with you and it's a

803
00:39:11,910 --> 00:39:09,359
pleasure to be working with uh

804
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:11,920
dave beatty of dreamtime entertainment

805
00:39:17,109 --> 00:39:14,880
and we'll certainly get to that uh over

806
00:39:20,069 --> 00:39:17,119
the course of the next two hours yeah um

807
00:39:22,710 --> 00:39:20,079
uh i i'm gonna go back uh this was

808
00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:22,720
probably uh six weeks ago

809
00:39:30,230 --> 00:39:26,160
and uh dave uh and i were chatting and

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00:39:33,910 --> 00:39:30,240
we have a way of not getting off of the

811
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:33,920
phone right we just start yakking and

812
00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:36,880
and the conversation that particular day

813
00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:38,880
somehow

814
00:39:43,349 --> 00:39:40,800
came around to you

815
00:39:45,910 --> 00:39:43,359
and and and dave's like you know bob i

816
00:39:48,550 --> 00:39:45,920
said yeah i know bob and he goes i

817
00:39:50,790 --> 00:39:48,560
i'm working with bob on this project and

818
00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:50,800
or i want to and we want to get this

819
00:39:55,589 --> 00:39:53,040
thing off the ground we ended up talking

820
00:39:57,750 --> 00:39:55,599
about you for about an hour

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00:39:58,870 --> 00:39:57,760
hour and a half and i could think of

822
00:39:59,670 --> 00:39:58,880
better things

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00:40:05,270 --> 00:39:59,680
really

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and and this is the thing um

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00:40:10,870 --> 00:40:07,680
what has always impressed me uh most

826
00:40:12,630 --> 00:40:10,880
about you and others that are free

827
00:40:15,030 --> 00:40:12,640
thinkers like yourself

828
00:40:17,829 --> 00:40:15,040
is that you have chosen to go against

829
00:40:21,270 --> 00:40:17,839
the grain of orthodoxy right

830
00:40:25,349 --> 00:40:21,280
to go against the grain of of the dogma

831
00:40:26,069 --> 00:40:25,359
of the scientific community the the the

832
00:40:28,550 --> 00:40:26,079
uh

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00:40:30,550 --> 00:40:28,560
the science of the brain and and the

834
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:30,560
subject of our reality and what all of

835
00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:31,920
that means

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00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:34,400
science has one view and then there's

837
00:40:38,309 --> 00:40:35,760
another view

838
00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:38,319
that they don't want to recognize is

839
00:40:42,069 --> 00:40:40,240
that is that difficult or has it been

840
00:40:45,030 --> 00:40:42,079
difficult on you

841
00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:45,040
to to you know to go to take that left

842
00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:48,240
turn and go in the other direction

843
00:40:52,309 --> 00:40:50,480
no it's a it's a passion for me like it

844
00:40:55,190 --> 00:40:52,319
is for millions of us especially those

845
00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:55,200
who are listening uh uh you have to be a

846
00:41:00,550 --> 00:40:57,040
little bit more discriminatory about who

847
00:41:02,069 --> 00:41:00,560
you talk to about what topic um

848
00:41:04,309 --> 00:41:02,079
you're always going to turn somebody off

849
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:04,319
but that's true of anything with anyone

850
00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:06,560
uh but that there is a stigma attached

851
00:41:10,309 --> 00:41:08,800
to much of this uh consciousness let

852
00:41:12,309 --> 00:41:10,319
alone many of the other

853
00:41:13,589 --> 00:41:12,319
underlying issues which we'll talk about

854
00:41:16,069 --> 00:41:13,599
today and which is also going to be

855
00:41:18,550 --> 00:41:16,079
featured in the documentary with leading

856
00:41:21,990 --> 00:41:18,560
scientists that we have recommended and

857
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:22,000
experiences to talk about

858
00:41:27,430 --> 00:41:24,800
issues that are regarded as stigma and

859
00:41:29,589 --> 00:41:27,440
unfortunately so because

860
00:41:30,550 --> 00:41:29,599
we are i think and i think many people

861
00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:30,560
believe

862
00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:32,880
as i do that we are on the cusp of a

863
00:41:37,910 --> 00:41:35,760
paradigm shift and and the documentary

864
00:41:40,230 --> 00:41:37,920
and these individuals who are kind

865
00:41:42,870 --> 00:41:40,240
enough to give their time and and and

866
00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:42,880
consideration to be interviewed for

867
00:41:46,950 --> 00:41:45,119
uh are doing some fascinating research

868
00:41:49,109 --> 00:41:46,960
along those lines we're going to try to

869
00:41:50,550 --> 00:41:49,119
remove some of that stigma by adding

870
00:41:54,150 --> 00:41:50,560
science

871
00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:54,160
to much of the issues and topics that

872
00:41:57,589 --> 00:41:55,440
are considered

873
00:41:59,750 --> 00:41:57,599
anomalous today and they range

874
00:42:01,990 --> 00:41:59,760
considerably and they come in all shapes

875
00:42:05,030 --> 00:42:02,000
and sizes not only in the form of a

876
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:05,040
possible uap at least some of them

877
00:42:09,270 --> 00:42:06,720
but also near death and other body

878
00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:09,280
experiences reincarnation

879
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:10,160
um

880
00:42:16,870 --> 00:42:13,440
anomalous events esp and parapsychology

881
00:42:19,430 --> 00:42:16,880
so it people when you ask them have you

882
00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:19,440
ever had an unusual experience

883
00:42:23,910 --> 00:42:21,760
it's it's unusual when you don't hear

884
00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:23,920
anything uh if they're willing to admit

885
00:42:27,990 --> 00:42:25,760
it right right

886
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:28,000
that is extraordinary and you say does

887
00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:30,480
that mean anything to you and they

888
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:32,960
either deny it or or

889
00:42:37,349 --> 00:42:34,560
or um

890
00:42:40,150 --> 00:42:37,359
don't give it much thought while others

891
00:42:42,630 --> 00:42:40,160
have a an interaction or peak experience

892
00:42:44,790 --> 00:42:42,640
with some anomalous event

893
00:42:45,750 --> 00:42:44,800
that they simply cannot explain

894
00:42:48,069 --> 00:42:45,760
and

895
00:42:50,390 --> 00:42:48,079
they have a spiritual transformative

896
00:42:52,390 --> 00:42:50,400
experience as a result and and their

897
00:42:53,750 --> 00:42:52,400
philosophical personal viewpoints and

898
00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:53,760
life

899
00:42:57,990 --> 00:42:55,599
are altered from that moment forward and

900
00:43:00,630 --> 00:42:58,000
with fierce passion and determination

901
00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:00,640
they're trying to figure out what the

902
00:43:04,550 --> 00:43:02,720
heck just happened to me

903
00:43:06,710 --> 00:43:04,560
they're changed from that moment forward

904
00:43:07,910 --> 00:43:06,720
and their dark coffee that you love to

905
00:43:09,990 --> 00:43:07,920
drink

906
00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:10,000
is going to taste very different

907
00:43:14,069 --> 00:43:12,960
from that morning forward um

908
00:43:15,109 --> 00:43:14,079
right

909
00:43:19,670 --> 00:43:15,119
yes

910
00:43:22,390 --> 00:43:19,680
absolutely right because when that when

911
00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:22,400
that uh life view

912
00:43:29,829 --> 00:43:23,440
changes

913
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:29,839
well you know the problem right now is

914
00:43:33,109 --> 00:43:32,160
that the information we have in various

915
00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:33,119
fields

916
00:43:38,230 --> 00:43:35,680
are fragmented they're that's a problem

917
00:43:40,069 --> 00:43:38,240
they're in various fields that there's

918
00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:40,079
when we talk about consciousness or any

919
00:43:44,150 --> 00:43:41,760
of these issues that we're addressing

920
00:43:46,309 --> 00:43:44,160
today they're either in just psychology

921
00:43:48,550 --> 00:43:46,319
or in just in ufology in consciousness

922
00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:48,560
studies just imperative the point is in

923
00:43:52,870 --> 00:43:50,880
quantum physics among others

924
00:43:54,790 --> 00:43:52,880
we're trying to integrate that as best

925
00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:54,800
as we can we see pockets where that

926
00:43:58,950 --> 00:43:56,480
happens there are some scientific

927
00:44:01,349 --> 00:43:58,960
organizations like the institute of

928
00:44:04,710 --> 00:44:01,359
nomadic sciences or dean raiden and and

929
00:44:05,750 --> 00:44:04,720
co-researchers i and i've there's many

930
00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:05,760
some others

931
00:44:09,109 --> 00:44:06,720
that i

932
00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:09,119
have great respect for but you fail to

933
00:44:13,910 --> 00:44:11,920
you fail to see the integration on the

934
00:44:15,589 --> 00:44:13,920
worldwide basis a collaborative effort

935
00:44:16,950 --> 00:44:15,599
with a uniform agreement on what

936
00:44:19,589 --> 00:44:16,960
criteria

937
00:44:21,910 --> 00:44:19,599
applied to define the kinds of phenomena

938
00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:21,920
that we're trying to wrestle with not

939
00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:23,760
only do we have a problem with our

940
00:44:29,270 --> 00:44:26,640
language labeling these things we don't

941
00:44:31,829 --> 00:44:29,280
have a uniform form agreement about what

942
00:44:34,950 --> 00:44:31,839
constitutes another body experience a

943
00:44:36,790 --> 00:44:34,960
uap interaction

944
00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:36,800
people don't understand what esp and

945
00:44:41,109 --> 00:44:39,280
para psychology are all about uh among

946
00:44:42,790 --> 00:44:41,119
all the other issues let alone quantum

947
00:44:45,030 --> 00:44:42,800
physics and consciousness what is

948
00:44:47,109 --> 00:44:45,040
consciousness you know the thing about

949
00:44:48,870 --> 00:44:47,119
consciousness is we use that we use our

950
00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:48,880
consciousness

951
00:44:56,470 --> 00:44:53,200
that doesn't make sense it does it

952
00:44:59,990 --> 00:44:56,480
doesn't no no no no

953
00:45:02,150 --> 00:45:00,000
that's the reason why many thousands of

954
00:45:04,870 --> 00:45:02,160
scholars throughout the centuries have

955
00:45:07,190 --> 00:45:04,880
written hundreds and thousands of papers

956
00:45:08,470 --> 00:45:07,200
written thousands of books and here we

957
00:45:10,150 --> 00:45:08,480
are today

958
00:45:12,390 --> 00:45:10,160
talking to bob

959
00:45:14,470 --> 00:45:12,400
davis about a documentary under

960
00:45:16,870 --> 00:45:14,480
consciousness connection you'd think

961
00:45:19,030 --> 00:45:16,880
we'd have the answer and so you get an

962
00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:19,040
emmy award winner down in

963
00:45:23,510 --> 00:45:20,880
dream time entertainment in fort myers

964
00:45:25,670 --> 00:45:23,520
florida and you've got got a a craziest

965
00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:25,680
retired scientist like me come together

966
00:45:30,150 --> 00:45:27,040
we're trying to get these scientists

967
00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:30,160
together trying to defragment

968
00:45:34,950 --> 00:45:32,880
a system trying to unify as best as

969
00:45:36,309 --> 00:45:34,960
possible i think we're going to have the

970
00:45:38,870 --> 00:45:36,319
answer would you like to shift the

971
00:45:41,109 --> 00:45:38,880
needle shall shall we say as as many

972
00:45:43,270 --> 00:45:41,119
people do and the only way to do so is

973
00:45:45,030 --> 00:45:43,280
to reach people and it seems these days

974
00:45:47,589 --> 00:45:45,040
nobody reads books so i'm out of that

975
00:45:48,630 --> 00:45:47,599
business i gave i gave that up

976
00:45:50,550 --> 00:45:48,640
uh

977
00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:50,560
let's let's try to reach millions and

978
00:45:54,550 --> 00:45:52,560
then dave betty has done that with his

979
00:45:57,030 --> 00:45:54,560
nimitz uh encounter

980
00:45:59,670 --> 00:45:57,040
uh documentary which has six million

981
00:46:02,790 --> 00:45:59,680
seven million views already you know he

982
00:46:05,990 --> 00:46:02,800
he has a he's a celebrity uh he he's a

983
00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:06,000
ufo researcher serious researcher uh and

984
00:46:10,870 --> 00:46:08,160
now he's a consciousness researcher the

985
00:46:14,390 --> 00:46:10,880
dude the dude is lit and and he's

986
00:46:16,870 --> 00:46:14,400
charged up and takes on projects whereby

987
00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:16,880
he's messed with it so i'm learning film

988
00:46:21,990 --> 00:46:19,280
production from him he's learning in

989
00:46:24,150 --> 00:46:22,000
part consciousness from me

990
00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:24,160
it's a it's a beautiful

991
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:26,480
relationship and we do kid at each other

992
00:46:32,950 --> 00:46:29,280
calling ourselves what's his name mulder

993
00:46:35,990 --> 00:46:32,960
from the x-files um i never thought i'd

994
00:46:37,750 --> 00:46:36,000
i'd feel a little bit like that but it

995
00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:37,760
gets a little cool it gets a little

996
00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:38,800
spooky

997
00:46:45,589 --> 00:46:41,760
but it is a real turn on talking to such

998
00:46:47,190 --> 00:46:45,599
marvelous individuals in various fields

999
00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:47,200
collaborating with them for the

1000
00:46:52,230 --> 00:46:49,680
documentary as we are doing

1001
00:46:55,349 --> 00:46:52,240
you know one day it's dean raiden

1002
00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:55,359
research sciences with ions a leading

1003
00:47:00,309 --> 00:46:58,079
researcher in parapsychology to diane

1004
00:47:02,790 --> 00:47:00,319
hennessy powell neuroscience scientists

1005
00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:02,800
and psychiatrists doing leading research

1006
00:47:08,309 --> 00:47:05,440
on consciousness logistics of bonds the

1007
00:47:12,950 --> 00:47:11,270
tom campbell uh my big toe yeah a nasa

1008
00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:12,960
scientist uh come on

1009
00:47:16,309 --> 00:47:15,359
um the sim theory the vr

1010
00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:16,319
um

1011
00:47:20,950 --> 00:47:18,640
uh roger nelson he was the director of

1012
00:47:22,549 --> 00:47:20,960
the princeton engineering anomalous

1013
00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:22,559
research lab these are all people gonna

1014
00:47:27,670 --> 00:47:24,800
be in the documentary i'm learning from

1015
00:47:29,829 --> 00:47:27,680
them we are learning from them and we're

1016
00:47:31,829 --> 00:47:29,839
there as turned on if not more so than

1017
00:47:33,510 --> 00:47:31,839
we are you know that it's that they

1018
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:33,520
realize the importance of doing

1019
00:47:38,950 --> 00:47:35,280
something like this

1020
00:47:40,870 --> 00:47:38,960
uh and and they they're anxious to con

1021
00:47:44,069 --> 00:47:40,880
you know to to help

1022
00:47:46,790 --> 00:47:44,079
um and that's why um you know i tell

1023
00:47:48,870 --> 00:47:46,800
people go on our

1024
00:47:49,829 --> 00:47:48,880
website the film website consciousness

1025
00:47:51,510 --> 00:47:49,839
filmed

1026
00:47:53,260 --> 00:47:51,520
uh

1027
00:47:54,870 --> 00:47:53,270
consciousnessfilm.info

1028
00:47:56,710 --> 00:47:54,880
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1029
00:47:58,950 --> 00:47:56,720
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1030
00:48:01,349 --> 00:47:58,960
continuous updates about the status of

1031
00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:01,359
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1032
00:48:06,150 --> 00:48:03,760
and jeff long near-death experience our

1033
00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:06,160
near-death uh research foundation uh

1034
00:48:11,750 --> 00:48:09,760
eben alexander the proof of heaven nice

1035
00:48:14,069 --> 00:48:11,760
and wide-backed seller neurosurgeon

1036
00:48:15,910 --> 00:48:14,079
hadn't had that experience gave it up

1037
00:48:17,750 --> 00:48:15,920
and now he uh

1038
00:48:19,109 --> 00:48:17,760
he teaches about

1039
00:48:21,430 --> 00:48:19,119
his experience

1040
00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:21,440
about what john lennon said so

1041
00:48:26,470 --> 00:48:24,240
beautifully you know it's it's

1042
00:48:29,030 --> 00:48:26,480
it's all about love uh and love is the

1043
00:48:30,549 --> 00:48:29,040
answer and uh everybody that has a

1044
00:48:32,309 --> 00:48:30,559
near-death experience would come to that

1045
00:48:34,150 --> 00:48:32,319
realization but it's not only in a

1046
00:48:37,109 --> 00:48:34,160
near-death experience here again the

1047
00:48:38,150 --> 00:48:37,119
component of consciousness comes through

1048
00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:38,160
whereby

1049
00:48:42,950 --> 00:48:40,240
not that we're defining it because it

1050
00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:42,960
probably is a physical energy that we

1051
00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:46,800
simply have not yet fully uh discovered

1052
00:48:50,549 --> 00:48:48,800
so okay let me let me know

1053
00:48:52,630 --> 00:48:50,559
yeah let me jump in right there for a

1054
00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:52,640
second when

1055
00:48:57,190 --> 00:48:55,359
when does consciousness

1056
00:48:59,190 --> 00:48:57,200
first appear

1057
00:49:01,109 --> 00:48:59,200
you know physicists and and the hard

1058
00:49:02,950 --> 00:49:01,119
scientists will just tell you it's a

1059
00:49:04,710 --> 00:49:02,960
chemical reaction

1060
00:49:07,910 --> 00:49:04,720
you know that it's just it's something

1061
00:49:11,109 --> 00:49:07,920
that happens because of chemistry

1062
00:49:12,630 --> 00:49:11,119
i i i don't obviously go down that road

1063
00:49:14,230 --> 00:49:12,640
but for

1064
00:49:17,349 --> 00:49:14,240
what's your what's your theory behind

1065
00:49:19,349 --> 00:49:17,359
that when is consciousness first appear

1066
00:49:20,470 --> 00:49:19,359
well that's a good question the question

1067
00:49:23,349 --> 00:49:20,480
is when did

1068
00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:23,359
the homo sapiens first appear

1069
00:49:27,190 --> 00:49:25,520
consciousness was probably here long

1070
00:49:27,990 --> 00:49:27,200
long before we were

1071
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:28,000
uh

1072
00:49:31,670 --> 00:49:30,480
at least that's what i suspect not that

1073
00:49:33,270 --> 00:49:31,680
i have an answer and please don't

1074
00:49:35,829 --> 00:49:33,280
misinterpret me

1075
00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:35,839
i don't have an answer i just

1076
00:49:39,349 --> 00:49:37,359
like in my books and like in this

1077
00:49:41,430 --> 00:49:39,359
documentary here's the evidence

1078
00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:41,440
let's present it in as objective man as

1079
00:49:44,790 --> 00:49:43,440
possible and let the audience interpret

1080
00:49:47,349 --> 00:49:44,800
it as they may

1081
00:49:49,910 --> 00:49:47,359
we don't feel it

1082
00:49:51,589 --> 00:49:49,920
but we can't be that egoic to feel that

1083
00:49:54,230 --> 00:49:51,599
we're we do have the answer to

1084
00:49:56,309 --> 00:49:54,240
consciousness that's ridiculous um i

1085
00:49:59,750 --> 00:49:56,319
don't think anybody does

1086
00:50:02,790 --> 00:49:59,760
uh i i we simply do not have the the

1087
00:50:05,910 --> 00:50:02,800
paradigm whereby newtonian physics which

1088
00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:05,920
we operate under is going to allow us to

1089
00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:09,280
fully um understand it we may be able to

1090
00:50:13,430 --> 00:50:10,880
detect some

1091
00:50:15,750 --> 00:50:13,440
alternative type of energy but to fully

1092
00:50:18,630 --> 00:50:15,760
understand it make it operational

1093
00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:18,640
functional benefit in terms of enhancing

1094
00:50:23,430 --> 00:50:21,040
human potential which is theoretically

1095
00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:23,440
possible and this is where some leading

1096
00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:24,880
researchers

1097
00:50:29,510 --> 00:50:26,400
who are again

1098
00:50:32,309 --> 00:50:29,520
participating in a documentary are going

1099
00:50:34,309 --> 00:50:32,319
uh they are moving in a direction that

1100
00:50:36,069 --> 00:50:34,319
has the potential

1101
00:50:40,710 --> 00:50:36,079
for a breakthrough

1102
00:50:42,950 --> 00:50:40,720
uh in a way that again i'm biased but

1103
00:50:46,150 --> 00:50:42,960
when we when we enter into the equation

1104
00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:46,160
of that research is ongoing at major

1105
00:50:49,750 --> 00:50:47,520
universities

1106
00:50:52,870 --> 00:50:49,760
in areas that are

1107
00:50:57,990 --> 00:50:55,349
i cannot help but be um

1108
00:51:00,870 --> 00:50:58,000
fairly optimistic that we may be on some

1109
00:51:02,790 --> 00:51:00,880
verge within the next five ten years on

1110
00:51:04,950 --> 00:51:02,800
something astonishing in the area of

1111
00:51:06,710 --> 00:51:04,960
consciousness and it might help explain

1112
00:51:08,470 --> 00:51:06,720
some of the anomalies that that human

1113
00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:08,480
beings have been experiencing

1114
00:51:13,349 --> 00:51:11,520
forever but consciousness probably has

1115
00:51:14,630 --> 00:51:13,359
always existed it's a fabric of our

1116
00:51:16,470 --> 00:51:14,640
universe

1117
00:51:18,150 --> 00:51:16,480
we're a piece of that we're connected to

1118
00:51:20,309 --> 00:51:18,160
it certainly

1119
00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:20,319
and um let's try to figure it out

1120
00:51:24,710 --> 00:51:22,480
understand it utilize it to our

1121
00:51:28,230 --> 00:51:24,720
advantage if at all possible and we see

1122
00:51:30,069 --> 00:51:28,240
hints of that but we're on the cusp

1123
00:51:31,910 --> 00:51:30,079
and we have to shift that paradigm a

1124
00:51:34,150 --> 00:51:31,920
little bit

1125
00:51:36,630 --> 00:51:34,160
so we bring some quantum mechanics and i

1126
00:51:39,510 --> 00:51:36,640
hate to i hate to jump into that area

1127
00:51:40,309 --> 00:51:39,520
but some of it is proving to be fairly

1128
00:51:42,069 --> 00:51:40,319
uh

1129
00:51:44,230 --> 00:51:42,079
true as it relates to many of the

1130
00:51:46,549 --> 00:51:44,240
anomalies that we are experiencing

1131
00:51:49,270 --> 00:51:46,559
newtonian physics doesn't understand and

1132
00:51:51,109 --> 00:51:49,280
that's explained it seems at least some

1133
00:51:54,309 --> 00:51:51,119
of the principles law of entanglement

1134
00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:54,319
superposition et cetera et cetera um

1135
00:51:59,589 --> 00:51:55,440
does

1136
00:52:00,309 --> 00:51:59,599
better than gravity

1137
00:52:03,510 --> 00:52:00,319
yeah

1138
00:52:06,390 --> 00:52:03,520
and an industry which uh we we love and

1139
00:52:08,069 --> 00:52:06,400
we need and we we benefit greatly from

1140
00:52:09,829 --> 00:52:08,079
and and we need to understand that

1141
00:52:11,829 --> 00:52:09,839
aspect of the physical phenomena

1142
00:52:13,510 --> 00:52:11,839
associated for instance with uaps

1143
00:52:15,670 --> 00:52:13,520
because that is a real issue and we'll

1144
00:52:17,589 --> 00:52:15,680
talk about that please please

1145
00:52:19,510 --> 00:52:17,599
uh but there's more than that and

1146
00:52:22,549 --> 00:52:19,520
there's a non-physical component it

1147
00:52:23,990 --> 00:52:22,559
seems as well you know when uh

1148
00:52:26,549 --> 00:52:24,000
the the

1149
00:52:27,589 --> 00:52:26,559
universities and and groups around the

1150
00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:27,599
world

1151
00:52:31,510 --> 00:52:28,480
uh

1152
00:52:33,670 --> 00:52:31,520
dive more and more into brain research

1153
00:52:35,270 --> 00:52:33,680
and there's a lot of that going on right

1154
00:52:36,069 --> 00:52:35,280
now

1155
00:52:39,109 --> 00:52:36,079
they

1156
00:52:41,349 --> 00:52:39,119
inevitably go into this realm of

1157
00:52:43,990 --> 00:52:41,359
consciousness and and that's where the

1158
00:52:46,549 --> 00:52:44,000
brain research is taking them and it's

1159
00:52:49,430 --> 00:52:46,559
the same thing in physics

1160
00:52:51,829 --> 00:52:49,440
the more that they look into this the

1161
00:52:54,390 --> 00:52:51,839
question of consciousness and what it is

1162
00:52:57,030 --> 00:52:54,400
it steps up but nobody

1163
00:52:58,870 --> 00:52:57,040
wants to talk about it you can't talk to

1164
00:53:00,630 --> 00:52:58,880
a physicist about consciousness they'll

1165
00:53:03,510 --> 00:53:00,640
change the conversation

1166
00:53:06,790 --> 00:53:03,520
and and and all of the hard sciences do

1167
00:53:08,630 --> 00:53:06,800
the same thing bob why is that when all

1168
00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:08,640
of the research takes him in this

1169
00:53:12,829 --> 00:53:09,760
direction

1170
00:53:15,829 --> 00:53:12,839
you're using consciousness to discuss

1171
00:53:17,349 --> 00:53:15,839
science uh well

1172
00:53:21,190 --> 00:53:17,359
what's interesting is that that that

1173
00:53:23,430 --> 00:53:21,200
contributes uh to the fragmentation of

1174
00:53:26,069 --> 00:53:23,440
of how we are approaching

1175
00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:26,079
this overarching issue it's probably the

1176
00:53:30,309 --> 00:53:28,480
most critical most fundamental of our

1177
00:53:32,630 --> 00:53:30,319
time what is consciousness because that

1178
00:53:34,710 --> 00:53:32,640
tells us i think if we had the answer it

1179
00:53:38,150 --> 00:53:34,720
would inform us

1180
00:53:39,030 --> 00:53:38,160
to a large extent about what is reality

1181
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:39,040
and

1182
00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:43,040
based on some of the anomalous

1183
00:53:46,870 --> 00:53:44,880
experience that they've had and that's

1184
00:53:48,870 --> 00:53:46,880
why it has such a profound impact on

1185
00:53:51,349 --> 00:53:48,880
their personal uh philosophical

1186
00:53:53,829 --> 00:53:51,359
viewpoints it alters their views on life

1187
00:53:55,750 --> 00:53:53,839
and death and spirituality money every

1188
00:53:57,510 --> 00:53:55,760
they become more humane

1189
00:54:00,549 --> 00:53:57,520
we've heard that before they simply

1190
00:54:02,710 --> 00:54:00,559
become more humane uh after

1191
00:54:04,549 --> 00:54:02,720
maybe a dark night of the soul and they

1192
00:54:06,549 --> 00:54:04,559
have a great deal of anxiety over what

1193
00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:06,559
happened to me and that spiritual

1194
00:54:11,190 --> 00:54:08,880
transformative emergency which is

1195
00:54:12,150 --> 00:54:11,200
unfortunately not adequately addressed

1196
00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:12,160
by

1197
00:54:17,349 --> 00:54:15,040
our society especially the psychiatric

1198
00:54:19,030 --> 00:54:17,359
psychological community that's another

1199
00:54:21,190 --> 00:54:19,040
issue in and of itself there are a lot

1200
00:54:23,510 --> 00:54:21,200
of people that are unfortunately

1201
00:54:25,750 --> 00:54:23,520
suffering terribly from from such

1202
00:54:27,030 --> 00:54:25,760
interactions that leave them with great

1203
00:54:28,470 --> 00:54:27,040
anxiety

1204
00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:28,480
and nobody understands them and they

1205
00:54:31,990 --> 00:54:30,319
don't want to talk about it because of

1206
00:54:33,109 --> 00:54:32,000
that stigma

1207
00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:33,119
and

1208
00:54:36,950 --> 00:54:35,040
many psychologists do not fully

1209
00:54:39,030 --> 00:54:36,960
understand it as well that's another

1210
00:54:40,950 --> 00:54:39,040
story that that's you know that i don't

1211
00:54:42,069 --> 00:54:40,960
want to get into but that's

1212
00:54:44,390 --> 00:54:42,079
um

1213
00:54:46,950 --> 00:54:44,400
there are support services for those who

1214
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:46,960
have that ste and i encourage those to

1215
00:54:52,630 --> 00:54:50,160
try to find that uh

1216
00:54:53,910 --> 00:54:52,640
for help um no it's important to find

1217
00:54:55,589 --> 00:54:53,920
the right person

1218
00:54:57,990 --> 00:54:55,599
you've done a lot of uh near-death

1219
00:55:00,069 --> 00:54:58,000
experience research and we can discuss

1220
00:55:03,589 --> 00:55:00,079
this in depth later but

1221
00:55:06,470 --> 00:55:03,599
one of the things that comes out of uh

1222
00:55:08,069 --> 00:55:06,480
that research and i think that we all

1223
00:55:10,230 --> 00:55:08,079
recognize it

1224
00:55:12,230 --> 00:55:10,240
is that us

1225
00:55:15,990 --> 00:55:12,240
we continue

1226
00:55:18,549 --> 00:55:16,000
our physical body may be done shut down

1227
00:55:20,789 --> 00:55:18,559
the electronic system is you know the

1228
00:55:22,710 --> 00:55:20,799
off switch is hit

1229
00:55:25,190 --> 00:55:22,720
but we continue

1230
00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:25,200
and and that is something that has been

1231
00:55:29,349 --> 00:55:26,640
not only uh

1232
00:55:31,109 --> 00:55:29,359
encountered by doctors and surgeons and

1233
00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:31,119
operating rooms or

1234
00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:33,200
paramedics and and things where they

1235
00:55:38,390 --> 00:55:34,559
have witnessed

1236
00:55:40,470 --> 00:55:38,400
uh these these things firsthand and for

1237
00:55:43,109 --> 00:55:40,480
them that's the paradigm shift that

1238
00:55:44,789 --> 00:55:43,119
they're looking for but it also answers

1239
00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:44,799
a lot of questions that

1240
00:55:49,589 --> 00:55:46,880
consciousness and our our soul whatever

1241
00:55:50,549 --> 00:55:49,599
you want to call it it continues doesn't

1242
00:55:51,349 --> 00:55:50,559
it

1243
00:55:53,670 --> 00:55:51,359
well

1244
00:55:56,950 --> 00:55:53,680
we can't be absolutely certain uh you

1245
00:55:58,950 --> 00:55:56,960
know i come from uh many decades of uh

1246
00:56:02,069 --> 00:55:58,960
following the scientific method which is

1247
00:56:02,950 --> 00:56:02,079
an advantage but also a is a drawback as

1248
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:02,960
well

1249
00:56:07,190 --> 00:56:05,440
uh in many in many respects it applies

1250
00:56:09,589 --> 00:56:07,200
to what we're trying to research and

1251
00:56:11,430 --> 00:56:09,599
understand right now but getting back to

1252
00:56:13,589 --> 00:56:11,440
your prior question because it also

1253
00:56:15,349 --> 00:56:13,599
relates to this is that consciousness

1254
00:56:17,670 --> 00:56:15,359
exists all over the place

1255
00:56:20,150 --> 00:56:17,680
uh and i think that that might just

1256
00:56:22,789 --> 00:56:20,160
answer it or maybe that's a cop-out uh

1257
00:56:25,510 --> 00:56:22,799
and and that's again trying to integrate

1258
00:56:27,349 --> 00:56:25,520
the information that we have across all

1259
00:56:29,270 --> 00:56:27,359
of the discipline because if you talk to

1260
00:56:31,349 --> 00:56:29,280
a physicist they're going to describe

1261
00:56:32,789 --> 00:56:31,359
the consciousness in the form possibly

1262
00:56:34,870 --> 00:56:32,799
of a

1263
00:56:37,510 --> 00:56:34,880
virtual simulation

1264
00:56:40,069 --> 00:56:37,520
or or or something else along those

1265
00:56:42,230 --> 00:56:40,079
lines you talk to us

1266
00:56:43,990 --> 00:56:42,240
an anesthesiologist or medical physician

1267
00:56:46,950 --> 00:56:44,000
they're going to describe consciousness

1268
00:56:49,430 --> 00:56:46,960
as a form of a state of alertness or

1269
00:56:50,950 --> 00:56:49,440
wakefulness you talk to a psychologist

1270
00:56:53,030 --> 00:56:50,960
you're going to get some diatribe on

1271
00:56:55,910 --> 00:56:53,040
cognitive processing

1272
00:56:57,349 --> 00:56:55,920
so and that's the problem uh here again

1273
00:56:58,390 --> 00:56:57,359
we're too

1274
00:56:59,910 --> 00:56:58,400
focused

1275
00:57:02,309 --> 00:56:59,920
and and

1276
00:57:04,630 --> 00:57:02,319
where is this integrative holistic you

1277
00:57:07,030 --> 00:57:04,640
know the sort of eastern medicine as it

1278
00:57:08,470 --> 00:57:07,040
may apply to this topic area you know it

1279
00:57:09,750 --> 00:57:08,480
lacks in our

1280
00:57:12,069 --> 00:57:09,760
medical

1281
00:57:14,789 --> 00:57:12,079
arena where we don't have enough

1282
00:57:16,150 --> 00:57:14,799
integration of holistic medicine where

1283
00:57:17,950 --> 00:57:16,160
we can learn

1284
00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:17,960
about other

1285
00:57:22,150 --> 00:57:20,240
non-traditional practices which

1286
00:57:23,990 --> 00:57:22,160
unfortunately are corrupted by business

1287
00:57:24,789 --> 00:57:24,000
to a large extent and have great respect

1288
00:57:26,950 --> 00:57:24,799
for

1289
00:57:29,270 --> 00:57:26,960
those that are competent in the field

1290
00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:29,280
but nevertheless conscious exists all

1291
00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:31,280
over the place it's microscopic at the

1292
00:57:35,349 --> 00:57:33,520
sub-atomic level the observer effect the

1293
00:57:37,270 --> 00:57:35,359
waiver of particles collapse of the wave

1294
00:57:39,829 --> 00:57:37,280
function based on observation

1295
00:57:41,750 --> 00:57:39,839
consciousness at the subatomic level

1296
00:57:43,829 --> 00:57:41,760
then we see consciousness in terms of

1297
00:57:46,390 --> 00:57:43,839
human to human interaction human to

1298
00:57:48,630 --> 00:57:46,400
physical system interaction that kind of

1299
00:57:52,230 --> 00:57:48,640
information transference we see it with

1300
00:57:53,910 --> 00:57:52,240
esp psychokinesis esp is real everybody

1301
00:57:57,670 --> 00:57:53,920
in my mind at least that's one thing i

1302
00:57:58,870 --> 00:57:57,680
will say with with uh certainty um

1303
00:58:01,670 --> 00:57:58,880
it's subtle

1304
00:58:03,230 --> 00:58:01,680
it's largely statistical but

1305
00:58:05,589 --> 00:58:03,240
it's

1306
00:58:07,750 --> 00:58:05,599
unquestionably real and

1307
00:58:09,670 --> 00:58:07,760
okay has not read the literature and

1308
00:58:11,349 --> 00:58:09,680
that's true with all of this information

1309
00:58:13,270 --> 00:58:11,359
people have their minds made up before

1310
00:58:15,670 --> 00:58:13,280
they read the evidence you know stanton

1311
00:58:17,829 --> 00:58:15,680
friedman kind of uh

1312
00:58:19,270 --> 00:58:17,839
rationality's right i've talked to too

1313
00:58:20,710 --> 00:58:19,280
many people like that for whatever

1314
00:58:23,030 --> 00:58:20,720
reason that's another topic for

1315
00:58:24,230 --> 00:58:23,040
conversation but but look we see it on

1316
00:58:25,829 --> 00:58:24,240
the global scale the global

1317
00:58:27,349 --> 00:58:25,839
consciousness project from the princeton

1318
00:58:29,670 --> 00:58:27,359
engineering anomalous research

1319
00:58:31,990 --> 00:58:29,680
laboratory with random number generators

1320
00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:32,000
roger nelson director of that he's going

1321
00:58:36,950 --> 00:58:34,720
to be as part of the documentary at the

1322
00:58:39,349 --> 00:58:36,960
global level well i want to talk about

1323
00:58:40,150 --> 00:58:39,359
that people think again who nobody knows

1324
00:58:45,270 --> 00:58:40,160
that

1325
00:58:47,750 --> 00:58:45,280
should be brought to the forefront to

1326
00:58:49,910 --> 00:58:47,760
wake people up but it doesn't end there

1327
00:58:52,470 --> 00:58:49,920
the macroscopic level and then the

1328
00:58:54,069 --> 00:58:52,480
cosmological level you know

1329
00:58:55,349 --> 00:58:54,079
rudy shields

1330
00:58:57,670 --> 00:58:55,359
a physicist

1331
00:58:59,510 --> 00:58:57,680
he was a career scientist as a at the

1332
00:59:02,150 --> 00:58:59,520
harvard smithsonian

1333
00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:02,160
research laboratory okay

1334
00:59:07,750 --> 00:59:05,200
he worked with me on free when uh uh

1335
00:59:10,710 --> 00:59:07,760
he's quite a quite a character brilliant

1336
00:59:12,950 --> 00:59:10,720
he even disproved stephen hawking wrong

1337
00:59:15,430 --> 00:59:12,960
and stephen hawking uh about the black

1338
00:59:18,150 --> 00:59:15,440
hole some theory that i don't understand

1339
00:59:20,069 --> 00:59:18,160
and stephen hawking publicly uh admitted

1340
00:59:23,349 --> 00:59:20,079
that rudy shear was correct the man was

1341
00:59:24,789 --> 00:59:23,359
brilliant uh in his area so of course he

1342
00:59:26,630 --> 00:59:24,799
describes consciousness from a

1343
00:59:27,589 --> 00:59:26,640
cosmological level

1344
00:59:31,030 --> 00:59:27,599
uh

1345
00:59:32,870 --> 00:59:31,040
yeah so he he always told me told me bob

1346
00:59:33,670 --> 00:59:32,880
you know what a black hole is what he

1347
00:59:37,670 --> 00:59:33,680
says

1348
00:59:41,910 --> 00:59:39,510
it's a neuron of god's brain did you

1349
00:59:44,630 --> 00:59:41,920
hear me yeah i heard you but i don't

1350
00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:44,640
hear you no what does that do for me

1351
00:59:49,349 --> 00:59:47,200
yeah this is where the cop right he's

1352
00:59:52,230 --> 00:59:49,359
okay he's gonna be in the documentary

1353
00:59:54,630 --> 00:59:52,240
you know that's strong

1354
00:59:56,710 --> 00:59:54,640
and he says

1355
00:59:59,430 --> 00:59:56,720
he says i'm not i don't want to let the

1356
01:00:00,710 --> 00:59:59,440
cat out of the bag but uh he has some

1357
01:00:03,829 --> 01:00:00,720
cutting-edge

1358
01:00:04,789 --> 01:00:03,839
technology that he um

1359
01:00:05,589 --> 01:00:04,799
um

1360
01:00:08,630 --> 01:00:05,599
that

1361
01:00:10,630 --> 01:00:08,640
he someone helped create patent

1362
01:00:12,150 --> 01:00:10,640
waiting to be developed that's why i

1363
01:00:13,510 --> 01:00:12,160
can't go into any details not that i

1364
01:00:15,510 --> 01:00:13,520
know the details but have a general

1365
01:00:17,670 --> 01:00:15,520
concept concept of it

1366
01:00:19,630 --> 01:00:17,680
uh it's built on some of the work that

1367
01:00:21,910 --> 01:00:19,640
dean rayden pioneered in his

1368
01:00:23,349 --> 01:00:21,920
parapsychological experiments

1369
01:00:25,670 --> 01:00:23,359
on mind

1370
01:00:28,549 --> 01:00:25,680
uh you uh mind physical system

1371
01:00:31,510 --> 01:00:28,559
interaction again quite significant

1372
01:00:34,150 --> 01:00:31,520
results so it makes sense however given

1373
01:00:36,870 --> 01:00:34,160
the success of those experiments done i

1374
01:00:38,549 --> 01:00:36,880
can't remember now maybe 10 15 years ago

1375
01:00:40,549 --> 01:00:38,559
uh that

1376
01:00:42,470 --> 01:00:40,559
this could be the next

1377
01:00:45,270 --> 01:00:42,480
you know the next uh

1378
01:00:48,470 --> 01:00:45,280
brand the next uh thing

1379
01:00:49,990 --> 01:00:48,480
the evolution of it makes sense

1380
01:00:51,430 --> 01:00:50,000
well

1381
01:00:55,349 --> 01:00:51,440
that's going to be addressed in the

1382
01:00:57,589 --> 01:00:55,359
documentary and he and and rudy told me

1383
01:00:59,670 --> 01:00:57,599
that he wants to use a documentary as a

1384
01:01:01,670 --> 01:00:59,680
platform to release

1385
01:01:04,870 --> 01:01:01,680
this device

1386
01:01:06,789 --> 01:01:04,880
that he considers a breakthrough uh it

1387
01:01:09,030 --> 01:01:06,799
remains to be seen i don't want i don't

1388
01:01:10,870 --> 01:01:09,040
want to

1389
01:01:13,349 --> 01:01:10,880
tell everybody this is going to happen

1390
01:01:15,030 --> 01:01:13,359
when it may not i'm just be being given

1391
01:01:18,470 --> 01:01:15,040
information and and

1392
01:01:20,630 --> 01:01:18,480
and sharing it uh i i given the source

1393
01:01:23,030 --> 01:01:20,640
and others who know him i uh i think

1394
01:01:25,030 --> 01:01:23,040
there's some promise that's all i'll say

1395
01:01:26,549 --> 01:01:25,040
let's stay let's stay right there this

1396
01:01:28,230 --> 01:01:26,559
is fade to black we've got to take a

1397
01:01:31,270 --> 01:01:28,240
break i am your host jimmy church

1398
01:01:34,069 --> 01:01:31,280
tonight dr robert davis is with us it's

1399
01:01:35,270 --> 01:01:34,079
a full night of science cautious we're

1400
01:01:38,069 --> 01:01:35,280
going to get to

1401
01:01:39,430 --> 01:01:38,079
e.t contact after consciousness we'll be

1402
01:01:40,950 --> 01:01:39,440
right back after this short break i'm

1403
01:01:43,950 --> 01:01:40,960
your host jimmy church this is fade to

1404
01:01:58,780 --> 01:01:43,960
black stay with us

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01:01:59,450 --> 01:01:58,790
[Music]

1406
01:02:07,430 --> 01:01:59,460
[Applause]

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01:02:14,789 --> 01:02:09,599
this is fade to black with jimmy church

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01:02:19,990 --> 01:02:16,710
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[Music]

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welcome back fade to black i am your

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01:06:57,670 --> 01:06:55,520
host jimmy church tonight dr bob davis

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is with us tomorrow night paul heineck

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01:07:01,910 --> 01:07:00,400
wednesday night isaac arthur is here

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full physics

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thursday night's another uh fader night

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with open lines all night long now uh

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bob uh continuing i i want to go back

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01:07:17,190 --> 01:07:14,319
though i want to go back for a second

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01:07:18,630 --> 01:07:17,200
where uh you mentioned that

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consciousness

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01:07:22,150 --> 01:07:20,720
is at the subatomic level down to the

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particle level

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and uh which would explain a lot about

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01:07:28,630 --> 01:07:27,520
entanglement and things but

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01:07:30,230 --> 01:07:28,640
so

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based on that

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01:07:37,430 --> 01:07:32,079
does this

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01:07:39,589 --> 01:07:37,440
have consciousness are the particles

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01:07:42,950 --> 01:07:39,599
that make up this vehicle

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do they have consciousness and and

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01:07:47,270 --> 01:07:44,960
think about this

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01:07:49,589 --> 01:07:47,280
when i asked when does consciousness

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start you know we think about you know

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sperm and an egg

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and and contact boom

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is that the start of consciousness or

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01:08:00,309 --> 01:07:59,119
is consciousness already there it's it's

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01:08:03,670 --> 01:08:00,319
already in

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01:08:07,349 --> 01:08:03,680
a sperm cell you know before it meets

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01:08:09,510 --> 01:08:07,359
the egg right is is is this hot wheel

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01:08:12,230 --> 01:08:09,520
is this conscious

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well you know uh i i wish i had a

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01:08:17,030 --> 01:08:14,559
definite answer uh what's his name

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01:08:19,829 --> 01:08:17,040
tanoni says everything is conscious and

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01:08:20,950 --> 01:08:19,839
actually applies a unit of phi phi to

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it's uh

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01:08:25,510 --> 01:08:22,880
but you're arresting the wrong person

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01:08:27,829 --> 01:08:25,520
for one thing i uh i normally go to bed

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01:08:30,789 --> 01:08:27,839
at 7 30 every night

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01:08:32,390 --> 01:08:30,799
i gave up coffee about three days ago

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so i'm irritable

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01:08:36,390 --> 01:08:34,880
and and and

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01:08:39,030 --> 01:08:36,400
guess what

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01:08:41,510 --> 01:08:39,040
to stay up to 12 30 tonight i'm drinking

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01:08:43,189 --> 01:08:41,520
coffee yeah and now i gotta go over i

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01:08:45,990 --> 01:08:43,199
gotta withdraw again

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01:08:47,669 --> 01:08:46,000
no wow your mug is this tall i'm just

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01:08:49,669 --> 01:08:47,679
letting everybody know and on top of

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01:08:51,110 --> 01:08:49,679
that that's three strikes jimmy if i may

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01:08:53,349 --> 01:08:51,120
say i'll get to your question in a

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second but i'm punchy that i'm using an

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excuse and then i tell my friends hey

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01:09:00,630 --> 01:08:57,920
i'm on the jimmy church show oh that's

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01:09:02,550 --> 01:09:00,640
cool you know but but it's monday night

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01:09:04,390 --> 01:09:02,560
football so now they're all pissed at me

1554
01:09:05,749 --> 01:09:04,400
you know because i i have to listen to

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01:09:07,829 --> 01:09:05,759
the show it interferes with so that's

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01:09:09,030 --> 01:09:07,839
four strikes and now you and now you're

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01:09:13,590 --> 01:09:09,040
asking me

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01:09:14,390 --> 01:09:13,600
it is a hot wheels conscious

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01:09:17,269 --> 01:09:14,400
yeah

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01:09:22,630 --> 01:09:17,279
you expect you expect me to answer

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01:09:26,950 --> 01:09:25,349
but but it has to be though bob

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01:09:31,189 --> 01:09:26,960
it has to be

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01:09:34,470 --> 01:09:31,199
well you know it's all it's earlier

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01:09:35,829 --> 01:09:34,480
relative uh a human is more uh it's a

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01:09:37,829 --> 01:09:35,839
what what are we defining as

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01:09:39,189 --> 01:09:37,839
consciousness it goes back to that

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01:09:40,870 --> 01:09:39,199
what's what's the criteria for

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01:09:42,229 --> 01:09:40,880
consciousness uh

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01:09:44,789 --> 01:09:42,239
uh you know

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01:09:47,269 --> 01:09:44,799
people who philosophers maybe physicists

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01:09:49,269 --> 01:09:47,279
may be uh maybe you're turned on by phi

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01:09:51,590 --> 01:09:49,279
everything's conscious uh

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01:09:53,910 --> 01:09:51,600
while the physicians the psychologists

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01:09:55,750 --> 01:09:53,920
uh you know the the the person in the

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01:09:56,630 --> 01:09:55,760
street would look at you like uh you

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01:09:59,189 --> 01:09:56,640
know

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01:10:01,510 --> 01:09:59,199
like you're on quiz street so the point

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01:10:04,950 --> 01:10:01,520
is it's who you talk to nobody nobody

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01:10:07,350 --> 01:10:04,960
knows uh uh a rock uh yeah rock could be

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01:10:10,550 --> 01:10:07,360
conscious too i i agree with that look

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01:10:12,870 --> 01:10:10,560
it's how you define it you know it's uh

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01:10:15,270 --> 01:10:12,880
it it's the fact that it's there and the

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01:10:17,510 --> 01:10:15,280
human is observing it and it impacts us

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01:10:20,310 --> 01:10:17,520
in some way and we sit on it and enjoy

1585
01:10:22,470 --> 01:10:20,320
it maybe maybe that's in some way we're

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01:10:25,910 --> 01:10:22,480
having a resonant bond with it physical

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01:10:27,750 --> 01:10:25,920
or otherwise and maybe that reciprocal

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01:10:29,350 --> 01:10:27,760
transfer of information

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01:10:31,110 --> 01:10:29,360
as some people ascribe to in all

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01:10:33,510 --> 01:10:31,120
seriousness um

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01:10:35,430 --> 01:10:33,520
uh represents an act of consciousness no

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01:10:36,709 --> 01:10:35,440
matter what it is another human being or

1593
01:10:38,630 --> 01:10:36,719
maybe a little bit more certainly

1594
01:10:41,110 --> 01:10:38,640
sophisticated form of interaction and

1595
01:10:41,910 --> 01:10:41,120
thus consciousness or or higher unit of

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01:10:44,390 --> 01:10:41,920
phi

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01:10:46,390 --> 01:10:44,400
right uh or you know there's pink is

1598
01:10:48,709 --> 01:10:46,400
this pan psychism i think that's what's

1599
01:10:50,470 --> 01:10:48,719
the current concept maybe i i get them

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01:10:53,430 --> 01:10:50,480
all mixed up every other month it's a

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01:10:56,149 --> 01:10:53,440
different theory but there's some logic

1602
01:10:58,950 --> 01:10:56,159
to it uh hard to prove of course but the

1603
01:11:00,630 --> 01:10:58,960
thing is uh human to physical system

1604
01:11:02,550 --> 01:11:00,640
interaction it does seem to be an

1605
01:11:05,350 --> 01:11:02,560
interaction and an effect where the

1606
01:11:07,590 --> 01:11:05,360
human mind can actually impact the

1607
01:11:10,229 --> 01:11:07,600
physical systems we see it on

1608
01:11:14,709 --> 01:11:10,239
an individual level where an individual

1609
01:11:17,270 --> 01:11:14,719
can literally modify a distant

1610
01:11:19,830 --> 01:11:17,280
interferometer

1611
01:11:21,590 --> 01:11:19,840
in an up or down manner

1612
01:11:22,709 --> 01:11:21,600
based on the direction of their will

1613
01:11:23,669 --> 01:11:22,719
alone

1614
01:11:26,550 --> 01:11:23,679
and

1615
01:11:28,310 --> 01:11:26,560
far more times other than not they

1616
01:11:30,390 --> 01:11:28,320
statistically significantly

1617
01:11:32,870 --> 01:11:30,400
statistically uh

1618
01:11:35,590 --> 01:11:32,880
do that appropriately

1619
01:11:39,510 --> 01:11:37,270
then we not only see it on the

1620
01:11:41,830 --> 01:11:39,520
individual level let alone the subatomic

1621
01:11:43,510 --> 01:11:41,840
level where again electron may assume a

1622
01:11:45,189 --> 01:11:43,520
waiver a particle based on whether or

1623
01:11:46,790 --> 01:11:45,199
not it's being observed that that oh

1624
01:11:48,390 --> 01:11:46,800
what everybody's familiar with that

1625
01:11:50,630 --> 01:11:48,400
einstein

1626
01:11:52,390 --> 01:11:50,640
a term a spooky action at a distance

1627
01:11:54,470 --> 01:11:52,400
which he later admitted to being real

1628
01:11:55,910 --> 01:11:54,480
but unexplainable well that says

1629
01:11:57,590 --> 01:11:55,920
something consciousness there as you

1630
01:11:59,270 --> 01:11:57,600
mentioned prior

1631
01:12:01,350 --> 01:11:59,280
we see it here and then we see the

1632
01:12:02,790 --> 01:12:01,360
global consciousness scale well what is

1633
01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:02,800
that many of your listeners are well

1634
01:12:06,149 --> 01:12:04,320
aware of this i'm sure it has been

1635
01:12:09,189 --> 01:12:06,159
addressed on your show

1636
01:12:10,310 --> 01:12:09,199
several times on different formats but

1637
01:12:15,830 --> 01:12:10,320
um

1638
01:12:20,149 --> 01:12:18,229
relatively uh superficially but if you

1639
01:12:21,830 --> 01:12:20,159
get the cost of the concept across

1640
01:12:24,070 --> 01:12:21,840
random number generators a hundred of

1641
01:12:26,470 --> 01:12:24,080
them was stationed worldwide

1642
01:12:29,110 --> 01:12:26,480
they were downloaded into a server

1643
01:12:30,630 --> 01:12:29,120
located at princeton university

1644
01:12:34,149 --> 01:12:30,640
again at the princeton engineering

1645
01:12:36,229 --> 01:12:34,159
anomalous research laboratory

1646
01:12:38,310 --> 01:12:36,239
these are random number generators gener

1647
01:12:39,669 --> 01:12:38,320
developed by

1648
01:12:41,990 --> 01:12:39,679
roger nelson

1649
01:12:43,350 --> 01:12:42,000
the director of the lab

1650
01:12:44,550 --> 01:12:43,360
so

1651
01:12:47,350 --> 01:12:44,560
theoretically they're only going to

1652
01:12:49,270 --> 01:12:47,360
generate a one or a zero over time 50 of

1653
01:12:50,550 --> 01:12:49,280
the time it's zeros

1654
01:12:54,390 --> 01:12:50,560
the other fifty percent of the time of

1655
01:12:57,350 --> 01:12:54,400
course is once and as and 24 7 these

1656
01:12:58,870 --> 01:12:57,360
things operate on a random basis not

1657
01:13:01,750 --> 01:12:58,880
surprisingly they're random number

1658
01:13:04,470 --> 01:13:03,430
consumers make a lot of money on that

1659
01:13:05,350 --> 01:13:04,480
right

1660
01:13:06,630 --> 01:13:05,360
uh

1661
01:13:07,430 --> 01:13:06,640
but

1662
01:13:09,030 --> 01:13:07,440
then

1663
01:13:12,470 --> 01:13:09,040
something profound happens on a

1664
01:13:14,470 --> 01:13:12,480
worldwide level a global catastrophe

1665
01:13:17,189 --> 01:13:14,480
sorry to even mention it something like

1666
01:13:18,870 --> 01:13:17,199
on the order of 9 11.

1667
01:13:20,709 --> 01:13:18,880
these random number generators

1668
01:13:23,669 --> 01:13:20,719
collectively

1669
01:13:25,510 --> 01:13:23,679
contribute to the finalized data point

1670
01:13:27,830 --> 01:13:25,520
in princeton

1671
01:13:31,189 --> 01:13:27,840
research laboratory shows a significant

1672
01:13:34,229 --> 01:13:31,199
deviation from randomness they become

1673
01:13:36,470 --> 01:13:34,239
statistically non-random

1674
01:13:38,070 --> 01:13:36,480
it doesn't only happen then but also at

1675
01:13:39,990 --> 01:13:38,080
other

1676
01:13:42,149 --> 01:13:40,000
terrible events more often than not

1677
01:13:44,310 --> 01:13:42,159
unfortunately like a terrorist attack or

1678
01:13:46,229 --> 01:13:44,320
the tsunami

1679
01:13:49,430 --> 01:13:46,239
incident that devastated southeastern

1680
01:13:51,750 --> 01:13:49,440
asia back in whatever 2004

1681
01:13:53,110 --> 01:13:51,760
uh the election of president obama among

1682
01:13:55,270 --> 01:13:53,120
many other things that draw the

1683
01:13:57,669 --> 01:13:55,280
collective attention of

1684
01:13:59,270 --> 01:13:57,679
millions if not billions worldwide to

1685
01:14:00,950 --> 01:13:59,280
one single

1686
01:14:03,990 --> 01:14:00,960
catastrophic

1687
01:14:05,910 --> 01:14:04,000
oftentimes or momentous

1688
01:14:08,870 --> 01:14:05,920
it could be a happy it could be a happy

1689
01:14:10,950 --> 01:14:08,880
event we see it there we it's subtle but

1690
01:14:12,390 --> 01:14:10,960
but it's it

1691
01:14:14,709 --> 01:14:12,400
these are the

1692
01:14:16,470 --> 01:14:14,719
the people who analyze the data are

1693
01:14:18,470 --> 01:14:16,480
thoroughly convinced

1694
01:14:20,709 --> 01:14:18,480
that it could not be an anomaly

1695
01:14:23,270 --> 01:14:20,719
and because we see it

1696
01:14:25,590 --> 01:14:23,280
at certain times that are unique in

1697
01:14:28,070 --> 01:14:25,600
terms of global consciousness

1698
01:14:29,990 --> 01:14:28,080
i i encourage people to look at the data

1699
01:14:31,669 --> 01:14:30,000
it's actually ongoing right now you can

1700
01:14:34,630 --> 01:14:31,679
see a real-time

1701
01:14:37,830 --> 01:14:34,640
uh global consciousness project type of

1702
01:14:39,590 --> 01:14:37,840
map mapping of of this

1703
01:14:42,870 --> 01:14:39,600
it's kind of interesting nevertheless we

1704
01:14:45,110 --> 01:14:42,880
see it globally and we see it here again

1705
01:14:47,350 --> 01:14:45,120
it's the point is it's not surprising

1706
01:14:49,430 --> 01:14:47,360
that we we come to a reasonable

1707
01:14:51,750 --> 01:14:49,440
conclusion i think that it's a conscious

1708
01:14:53,189 --> 01:14:51,760
this is a fabric of our universe well

1709
01:14:56,550 --> 01:14:53,199
what does that mean

1710
01:14:58,950 --> 01:14:56,560
uh well it's still theoretical uh

1711
01:15:02,149 --> 01:14:58,960
i'm i'm we have experts that are going

1712
01:15:05,990 --> 01:15:02,159
to point out these individual aspects of

1713
01:15:08,310 --> 01:15:06,000
consciousness that permeate our reality

1714
01:15:10,550 --> 01:15:08,320
the question is why

1715
01:15:13,669 --> 01:15:10,560
what's in it for what's in it for you

1716
01:15:16,870 --> 01:15:13,679
humankind how can people benefit if at

1717
01:15:19,350 --> 01:15:16,880
all and i don't think

1718
01:15:20,870 --> 01:15:19,360
we at least in our generation have have

1719
01:15:23,350 --> 01:15:20,880
much of a chance to benefit very much

1720
01:15:26,229 --> 01:15:23,360
but down the road it doesn't take much

1721
01:15:29,590 --> 01:15:26,239
keen insight to to figure out that

1722
01:15:31,830 --> 01:15:29,600
that some aspects of consciousness or or

1723
01:15:34,149 --> 01:15:31,840
some some way either

1724
01:15:36,390 --> 01:15:34,159
medically uh psychologically or

1725
01:15:37,189 --> 01:15:36,400
otherwise uh or a breakthrough through

1726
01:15:39,750 --> 01:15:37,199
the

1727
01:15:41,910 --> 01:15:39,760
understanding of a of separate type of

1728
01:15:44,709 --> 01:15:41,920
energy maybe it's a torsion wave energy

1729
01:15:46,950 --> 01:15:44,719
that that some physicists ascribe to

1730
01:15:48,709 --> 01:15:46,960
uh that diane hennessey powell also

1731
01:15:51,510 --> 01:15:48,719
addresses in her current research on

1732
01:15:54,390 --> 01:15:51,520
science and and and makes the analogy

1733
01:15:57,990 --> 01:15:54,400
with reasonable reasonable logic that

1734
01:15:59,990 --> 01:15:58,000
the brain may be act like a torsion wave

1735
01:16:01,669 --> 01:16:00,000
interface or or an interface shall we

1736
01:16:03,510 --> 01:16:01,679
say a physical interface between torch

1737
01:16:07,830 --> 01:16:03,520
and energy that exists external to the

1738
01:16:10,950 --> 01:16:07,840
body and within the system here again

1739
01:16:12,070 --> 01:16:10,960
we're talking about the biophotonic

1740
01:16:15,110 --> 01:16:12,080
um

1741
01:16:17,830 --> 01:16:15,120
uh energy that has been found to exist

1742
01:16:20,470 --> 01:16:17,840
at the sub-atomic level that has been

1743
01:16:22,790 --> 01:16:20,480
shown to be emitted from dna

1744
01:16:24,709 --> 01:16:22,800
we're talking about a torsion wave force

1745
01:16:27,910 --> 01:16:24,719
or spinning force and everything in our

1746
01:16:29,669 --> 01:16:27,920
universe is spinning think about it

1747
01:16:31,590 --> 01:16:29,679
that's quite obvious

1748
01:16:33,350 --> 01:16:31,600
even water going down the toilet's going

1749
01:16:35,830 --> 01:16:33,360
to spin let alone

1750
01:16:38,709 --> 01:16:35,840
the planets around the sun

1751
01:16:41,270 --> 01:16:38,719
and everything around and around well

1752
01:16:42,790 --> 01:16:41,280
torsion energy is is not very well

1753
01:16:44,950 --> 01:16:42,800
understood

1754
01:16:47,270 --> 01:16:44,960
but this type of energy may very well

1755
01:16:49,270 --> 01:16:47,280
again be may serve to

1756
01:16:51,830 --> 01:16:49,280
act as sort of like a carry away for

1757
01:16:54,070 --> 01:16:51,840
electromagnetic electromagnetic energy

1758
01:16:57,750 --> 01:16:54,080
that's mediated from the body from the

1759
01:17:00,149 --> 01:16:57,760
dna or or cellular structure of the body

1760
01:17:02,709 --> 01:17:00,159
and certainly the brain in particular

1761
01:17:04,630 --> 01:17:02,719
because this is obviously where the

1762
01:17:06,870 --> 01:17:04,640
the seed of thought and abstract

1763
01:17:08,550 --> 01:17:06,880
reasoning lie maybe there are quantum

1764
01:17:10,709 --> 01:17:08,560
processes occurring here and if you

1765
01:17:13,030 --> 01:17:10,719
listen to some

1766
01:17:14,790 --> 01:17:13,040
people who do research in that area

1767
01:17:17,669 --> 01:17:14,800
we come across

1768
01:17:20,070 --> 01:17:17,679
the orc or theory or the orchestrated

1769
01:17:21,830 --> 01:17:20,080
reductionist theory that explains

1770
01:17:23,510 --> 01:17:21,840
consciousness on the basis of quantum

1771
01:17:26,229 --> 01:17:23,520
processes that are occurring in within

1772
01:17:28,229 --> 01:17:26,239
microtubules of the brain

1773
01:17:30,229 --> 01:17:28,239
i suspect you've had

1774
01:17:32,310 --> 01:17:30,239
many people on your show in the past who

1775
01:17:35,030 --> 01:17:32,320
have addressed some of that again

1776
01:17:36,310 --> 01:17:35,040
theoretical the point is this

1777
01:17:37,910 --> 01:17:36,320
i think

1778
01:17:40,950 --> 01:17:37,920
you see the point

1779
01:17:42,830 --> 01:17:40,960
whereby we have this this this

1780
01:17:46,390 --> 01:17:42,840
subtle but

1781
01:17:48,229 --> 01:17:46,400
real events that indicate the existence

1782
01:17:51,910 --> 01:17:48,239
of consciousness

1783
01:17:54,870 --> 01:17:51,920
not only in the in the reality in terms

1784
01:17:57,270 --> 01:17:54,880
of theory in terms of practice in terms

1785
01:18:00,390 --> 01:17:57,280
of experimental evidence in the

1786
01:18:02,790 --> 01:18:00,400
laboratory in the field but also on a

1787
01:18:04,550 --> 01:18:02,800
personal level what is often missing

1788
01:18:05,990 --> 01:18:04,560
here is the science of the subjective

1789
01:18:08,149 --> 01:18:06,000
something that we are also going to

1790
01:18:10,229 --> 01:18:08,159
address in the documentary

1791
01:18:12,709 --> 01:18:10,239
the paradigm shifts and the reason we're

1792
01:18:14,790 --> 01:18:12,719
on the on that cusp is that because so

1793
01:18:17,910 --> 01:18:14,800
many millions of people are continuing

1794
01:18:19,990 --> 01:18:17,920
to experience these profound effects

1795
01:18:22,070 --> 01:18:20,000
profound anomalous experiences that

1796
01:18:24,470 --> 01:18:22,080
again that come in so many different

1797
01:18:27,590 --> 01:18:24,480
shapes and sizes and forms we we all

1798
01:18:30,070 --> 01:18:27,600
know about it but what is science doing

1799
01:18:31,910 --> 01:18:30,080
about it well they have their hands tied

1800
01:18:34,310 --> 01:18:31,920
and we can't look to signs with the

1801
01:18:36,870 --> 01:18:34,320
answers because newtonian

1802
01:18:39,350 --> 01:18:36,880
physics was not designed to answer these

1803
01:18:41,990 --> 01:18:39,360
kinds of questions let's not blame you

1804
01:18:45,110 --> 01:18:42,000
know that to all that much

1805
01:18:47,350 --> 01:18:45,120
um we can we can put point blame

1806
01:18:49,430 --> 01:18:47,360
elsewhere that's why a paradigm shift is

1807
01:18:51,510 --> 01:18:49,440
needed to to incorporate some of the

1808
01:18:53,669 --> 01:18:51,520
theories in quantum mechanics those that

1809
01:18:56,950 --> 01:18:53,679
certainly are more provable than others

1810
01:18:57,830 --> 01:18:56,960
obviously let's not go uh uh haphazardly

1811
01:18:59,669 --> 01:18:57,840
say

1812
01:19:01,590 --> 01:18:59,679
quantum mechanics is the answer to all

1813
01:19:03,910 --> 01:19:01,600
this and some parts of it might very

1814
01:19:06,870 --> 01:19:03,920
well be and we're seeing good reason to

1815
01:19:09,189 --> 01:19:06,880
to suspect that it is and we see quantum

1816
01:19:13,110 --> 01:19:09,199
processes in the brain we see quantum

1817
01:19:16,149 --> 01:19:13,120
processes in in many areas of of daily

1818
01:19:18,350 --> 01:19:16,159
life uh life itself is a quantum process

1819
01:19:20,709 --> 01:19:18,360
so it's a infinite number of

1820
01:19:22,470 --> 01:19:20,719
potentialities that exist in front of us

1821
01:19:25,830 --> 01:19:22,480
what do you want to do tomorrow you have

1822
01:19:28,149 --> 01:19:25,840
an infinite infinite potential potential

1823
01:19:31,110 --> 01:19:28,159
to do anything you want uh just about

1824
01:19:33,590 --> 01:19:31,120
within reason but there it is

1825
01:19:36,310 --> 01:19:33,600
life is a quantum process we're governed

1826
01:19:38,790 --> 01:19:36,320
in a sense by it maybe quantum

1827
01:19:41,830 --> 01:19:38,800
processing and and it is it is very

1828
01:19:43,110 --> 01:19:41,840
esoteric controversial debatable but it

1829
01:19:46,470 --> 01:19:43,120
is real

1830
01:19:48,390 --> 01:19:46,480
and it explains much much clearer many

1831
01:19:51,350 --> 01:19:48,400
of the anomalous activities that people

1832
01:19:52,229 --> 01:19:51,360
experience subjectively

1833
01:19:55,590 --> 01:19:52,239
much

1834
01:19:58,390 --> 01:19:55,600
clarity

1835
01:19:59,669 --> 01:19:58,400
and in my mind better theory

1836
01:20:01,830 --> 01:19:59,679
than

1837
01:20:04,229 --> 01:20:01,840
classical traditional newtonian physics

1838
01:20:06,229 --> 01:20:04,239
ever can

1839
01:20:07,830 --> 01:20:06,239
so we we have to start incorporating

1840
01:20:10,070 --> 01:20:07,840
more of that

1841
01:20:11,750 --> 01:20:10,080
into the equation carefully very

1842
01:20:13,910 --> 01:20:11,760
selectively just like we have to be very

1843
01:20:15,910 --> 01:20:13,920
selective in how we analyze the evidence

1844
01:20:18,149 --> 01:20:15,920
when we talk about all of this there's

1845
01:20:19,270 --> 01:20:18,159
so much nonsense out there we all know

1846
01:20:23,350 --> 01:20:19,280
that

1847
01:20:25,350 --> 01:20:23,360
consumers to figure out what's you know

1848
01:20:27,830 --> 01:20:25,360
what's objective and what's the sense

1849
01:20:29,270 --> 01:20:27,840
from the nonsense so

1850
01:20:31,830 --> 01:20:29,280
the point is

1851
01:20:34,790 --> 01:20:31,840
even if we did have the answer

1852
01:20:36,390 --> 01:20:34,800
to something miraculous you know like

1853
01:20:38,229 --> 01:20:36,400
how would people know

1854
01:20:39,750 --> 01:20:38,239
you know

1855
01:20:41,590 --> 01:20:39,760
people don't seem to be

1856
01:20:43,910 --> 01:20:41,600
all unfortunately people don't seem to

1857
01:20:46,950 --> 01:20:43,920
be all that interested here and that's

1858
01:20:49,910 --> 01:20:46,960
why you need it seems to be these visual

1859
01:20:51,030 --> 01:20:49,920
social media kinds of uh

1860
01:20:53,990 --> 01:20:51,040
networks

1861
01:20:56,390 --> 01:20:54,000
that and print media we understand is

1862
01:20:57,270 --> 01:20:56,400
not cutting it like it used to certainly

1863
01:20:59,270 --> 01:20:57,280
so

1864
01:21:01,030 --> 01:20:59,280
the only way i could get gets i could

1865
01:21:03,510 --> 01:21:01,040
say the only way i can

1866
01:21:05,350 --> 01:21:03,520
have the few things left uh to share

1867
01:21:06,629 --> 01:21:05,360
with everybody is through a documentary

1868
01:21:08,470 --> 01:21:06,639
in fact when i was reading writing my

1869
01:21:10,709 --> 01:21:08,480
book unseen forces

1870
01:21:12,070 --> 01:21:10,719
i always thought it would make a good

1871
01:21:14,709 --> 01:21:12,080
documentary

1872
01:21:15,910 --> 01:21:14,719
i'm very serious for some strange reason

1873
01:21:18,149 --> 01:21:15,920
in fact

1874
01:21:21,030 --> 01:21:18,159
uh there's some synchronicity if i may

1875
01:21:23,510 --> 01:21:21,040
digress for for a minute or two with uh

1876
01:21:25,270 --> 01:21:23,520
dave beatty uh as it comes to mind

1877
01:21:26,550 --> 01:21:25,280
because it does relate to to

1878
01:21:28,870 --> 01:21:26,560
consciousness the concepts of

1879
01:21:30,709 --> 01:21:28,880
synchronicity

1880
01:21:32,950 --> 01:21:30,719
noted of course by

1881
01:21:35,229 --> 01:21:32,960
carl young

1882
01:21:37,669 --> 01:21:35,239
where timing and meaning occur

1883
01:21:39,830 --> 01:21:37,679
simultaneously that has a major impact

1884
01:21:43,510 --> 01:21:39,840
on the people that a person experiences

1885
01:21:46,070 --> 01:21:43,520
it and it extends far beyond the simple

1886
01:21:47,590 --> 01:21:46,080
chance of coincidence and that many

1887
01:21:50,070 --> 01:21:47,600
people understand this we all have

1888
01:21:51,750 --> 01:21:50,080
coincidences but this is like a big one

1889
01:21:53,590 --> 01:21:51,760
happens

1890
01:21:56,310 --> 01:21:53,600
it's a big one anyway

1891
01:21:57,750 --> 01:21:56,320
uh after i was um

1892
01:22:00,070 --> 01:21:57,760
i was toying with the idea with doing

1893
01:22:01,590 --> 01:22:00,080
that documentary on that book unseen

1894
01:22:03,189 --> 01:22:01,600
forces yeah i've just said you know i

1895
01:22:04,390 --> 01:22:03,199
mean i'm retired i have free time what

1896
01:22:06,229 --> 01:22:04,400
the heck

1897
01:22:08,149 --> 01:22:06,239
so i said okay i'll send down an email

1898
01:22:11,030 --> 01:22:08,159
this is who i am you know what do you

1899
01:22:12,629 --> 01:22:11,040
think of this idea and i i lived here

1900
01:22:13,910 --> 01:22:12,639
down in florida

1901
01:22:15,830 --> 01:22:13,920
um

1902
01:22:17,510 --> 01:22:15,840
and so i thought i'd send it to somebody

1903
01:22:19,430 --> 01:22:17,520
in florida

1904
01:22:20,870 --> 01:22:19,440
randomly i see some

1905
01:22:23,189 --> 01:22:20,880
i see a

1906
01:22:25,189 --> 01:22:23,199
name of a company just it just rang for

1907
01:22:28,390 --> 01:22:25,199
some reason i send it out

1908
01:22:29,590 --> 01:22:28,400
i get a i get a call

1909
01:22:31,669 --> 01:22:29,600
hello

1910
01:22:33,430 --> 01:22:31,679
yeah this is bob davis

1911
01:22:35,430 --> 01:22:33,440
uh-huh yeah i'll send you i'll send you

1912
01:22:37,030 --> 01:22:35,440
my book sure that'd be great yeah you

1913
01:22:39,270 --> 01:22:37,040
want to meet sure we'll have lunch blah

1914
01:22:41,750 --> 01:22:39,280
blah blah

1915
01:22:43,990 --> 01:22:41,760
uh-huh who are you dave beatty

1916
01:22:46,070 --> 01:22:44,000
oh dave betty yeah okay how do you spell

1917
01:22:47,669 --> 01:22:46,080
that dave

1918
01:22:51,030 --> 01:22:47,679
daddy uh

1919
01:22:52,390 --> 01:22:51,040
okay baby all right yeah

1920
01:22:54,310 --> 01:22:52,400
uh

1921
01:22:55,750 --> 01:22:54,320
i didn't know who the dave beatty was i

1922
01:22:58,709 --> 01:22:55,760
knew the nimitz thing what the nimitz

1923
01:23:01,030 --> 01:22:58,719
encounters was but not dave bailey so

1924
01:23:02,149 --> 01:23:01,040
first first my first

1925
01:23:05,110 --> 01:23:02,159
male

1926
01:23:06,550 --> 01:23:05,120
ghost day bitty nope you know okay

1927
01:23:08,870 --> 01:23:06,560
figure that one out

1928
01:23:11,189 --> 01:23:08,880
a lot of producers in america right yeah

1929
01:23:13,270 --> 01:23:11,199
uh so uh

1930
01:23:15,270 --> 01:23:13,280
uh you know we're talking talking about

1931
01:23:17,669 --> 01:23:15,280
nimitz encounters we're having lunch uh

1932
01:23:19,350 --> 01:23:17,679
overlooking uh port charlotte harbor

1933
01:23:21,669 --> 01:23:19,360
nice little restaurant

1934
01:23:23,110 --> 01:23:21,679
um never heard of the nemesis sure i

1935
01:23:25,110 --> 01:23:23,120
sort of died talking about it's a great

1936
01:23:26,870 --> 01:23:25,120
documentary

1937
01:23:28,550 --> 01:23:26,880
i don't i don't look at names i don't

1938
01:23:30,390 --> 01:23:28,560
look at credits what the heck why do i

1939
01:23:31,350 --> 01:23:30,400
care about credits you know

1940
01:23:33,830 --> 01:23:31,360
uh

1941
01:23:36,310 --> 01:23:33,840
they baby you know

1942
01:23:39,350 --> 01:23:36,320
didn't ring a bell i'm dave betty i was

1943
01:23:41,430 --> 01:23:39,360
i produced a dog that's great oh good

1944
01:23:42,950 --> 01:23:41,440
that's good i didn't know he was you

1945
01:23:45,270 --> 01:23:42,960
know

1946
01:23:46,390 --> 01:23:45,280
so highly recognized for his his work

1947
01:23:48,709 --> 01:23:46,400
that's right

1948
01:23:50,790 --> 01:23:48,719
let me just get that not only that then

1949
01:23:53,030 --> 01:23:50,800
then he calls his friend gary voorhees

1950
01:23:54,149 --> 01:23:53,040
yeah he was the radar guy on the uss

1951
01:23:55,510 --> 01:23:54,159
nimitz right

1952
01:23:58,149 --> 01:23:55,520
had the pleasure of meeting up mike

1953
01:23:59,189 --> 01:23:58,159
murdoch's uh ce5 up in derby ranch in

1954
01:24:02,149 --> 01:23:59,199
tampa

1955
01:24:03,350 --> 01:24:02,159
uh wonderful wonderful people um um

1956
01:24:04,709 --> 01:24:03,360
nevertheless

1957
01:24:06,470 --> 01:24:04,719
uh gary

1958
01:24:09,270 --> 01:24:06,480
and dave are good friends right he was

1959
01:24:11,590 --> 01:24:09,280
in dave's documentary and and and dave's

1960
01:24:13,990 --> 01:24:11,600
you know talking to him and says hey i

1961
01:24:16,390 --> 01:24:14,000
uh i just got this information from bob

1962
01:24:17,669 --> 01:24:16,400
davis and i got this book you ever hear

1963
01:24:21,430 --> 01:24:17,679
of him

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01:24:22,390 --> 01:24:21,440
dude's book right now see you know what

1965
01:24:25,590 --> 01:24:22,400
is is

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01:24:26,950 --> 01:24:25,600
at what point does a coincidence just

1967
01:24:30,709 --> 01:24:26,960
become

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01:24:32,550 --> 01:24:30,719
uh a non-entity in these conversations

1969
01:24:34,390 --> 01:24:32,560
right i mean it's up to the experience

1970
01:24:37,669 --> 01:24:34,400
here well okay so let's

1971
01:24:38,709 --> 01:24:37,679
let's back up though for a second um

1972
01:24:41,669 --> 01:24:38,719
can

1973
01:24:44,470 --> 01:24:41,679
if we're gonna stay here where

1974
01:24:47,830 --> 01:24:44,480
you brought up black holes earlier and

1975
01:24:48,950 --> 01:24:47,840
the science a big chunk of physicists

1976
01:24:51,430 --> 01:24:48,960
today

1977
01:24:54,310 --> 01:24:51,440
subscribe to uh

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01:24:56,390 --> 01:24:54,320
all information stays

1979
01:24:59,189 --> 01:24:56,400
even if it passes through a black hole

1980
01:25:00,070 --> 01:24:59,199
the information stays

1981
01:25:01,990 --> 01:25:00,080
if

1982
01:25:04,149 --> 01:25:02,000
consciousness and we're talking about

1983
01:25:06,709 --> 01:25:04,159
electromagnetic uh

1984
01:25:09,830 --> 01:25:06,719
you know universe

1985
01:25:12,950 --> 01:25:09,840
can consciousness be dismantled

1986
01:25:15,430 --> 01:25:12,960
if if we you know if it passes through

1987
01:25:17,590 --> 01:25:15,440
uh a black hole or something

1988
01:25:19,510 --> 01:25:17,600
catastrophic

1989
01:25:20,790 --> 01:25:19,520
does does consciousness is the

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01:25:23,350 --> 01:25:20,800
information

1991
01:25:27,510 --> 01:25:23,360
does does it ever go away

1992
01:25:31,910 --> 01:25:30,229
well uh i don't know but i'm tempted to

1993
01:25:33,910 --> 01:25:31,920
ask rudy shield that question that's a

1994
01:25:35,990 --> 01:25:33,920
good question and and they come and they

1995
01:25:38,070 --> 01:25:36,000
and they talk about this mathematically

1996
01:25:39,750 --> 01:25:38,080
derived i don't understand that but

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01:25:42,470 --> 01:25:39,760
right you know the envelope of the black

1998
01:25:44,070 --> 01:25:42,480
hole contains all information okay how

1999
01:25:46,950 --> 01:25:44,080
do you derive that right right and then

2000
01:25:48,310 --> 01:25:46,960
you get into uh well um not only that

2001
01:25:50,390 --> 01:25:48,320
but there's a

2002
01:25:51,430 --> 01:25:50,400
information field that exists over the

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01:25:54,070 --> 01:25:51,440
uh

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01:25:56,629 --> 01:25:54,080
over the over the planet the ether that

2005
01:25:58,870 --> 01:25:56,639
there's something out there beyond uh

2006
01:26:00,629 --> 01:25:58,880
that we resonate with that we uh

2007
01:26:03,430 --> 01:26:00,639
that we are entangled with that some

2008
01:26:04,709 --> 01:26:03,440
people are able to interact with uh to

2009
01:26:06,470 --> 01:26:04,719
get this kind of knowledge of

2010
01:26:07,830 --> 01:26:06,480
information that they somehow should not

2011
01:26:10,629 --> 01:26:07,840
have been able to obtain with their

2012
01:26:13,590 --> 01:26:10,639
physical senses right right uh esp all

2013
01:26:15,590 --> 01:26:13,600
that stuff it seems like david baum that

2014
01:26:17,189 --> 01:26:15,600
that notable physicist you know when he

2015
01:26:18,950 --> 01:26:17,199
concluded that all realities and

2016
01:26:21,830 --> 01:26:18,960
separately interconnected you know he

2017
01:26:24,550 --> 01:26:21,840
makes that that point he's not alone as

2018
01:26:27,590 --> 01:26:24,560
many as many uh

2019
01:26:28,709 --> 01:26:27,600
scholars who've received nobel prizes

2020
01:26:30,229 --> 01:26:28,719
because they

2021
01:26:31,830 --> 01:26:30,239
they believed that consciousness

2022
01:26:33,830 --> 01:26:31,840
enveloped the earth

2023
01:26:35,669 --> 01:26:33,840
they believed they believed in things

2024
01:26:37,510 --> 01:26:35,679
that if i said it to you

2025
01:26:39,270 --> 01:26:37,520
you know you would

2026
01:26:40,470 --> 01:26:39,280
you with eyebrows would raise yet

2027
01:26:42,629 --> 01:26:40,480
they're being

2028
01:26:45,030 --> 01:26:42,639
but we forget that

2029
01:26:46,229 --> 01:26:45,040
people contemplated consciousness way

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01:26:47,990 --> 01:26:46,239
back when

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01:26:49,990 --> 01:26:48,000
and maybe at various times it was even

2032
01:26:52,310 --> 01:26:50,000
more accepted than today maybe newtonian

2033
01:26:53,110 --> 01:26:52,320
physics didn't do consciousness justice

2034
01:26:55,590 --> 01:26:53,120
and

2035
01:26:57,830 --> 01:26:55,600
we're just revisiting it again

2036
01:27:00,950 --> 01:26:57,840
in a manner that we think is important

2037
01:27:03,669 --> 01:27:00,960
and maybe maybe for whatever reason

2038
01:27:05,430 --> 01:27:03,679
i don't know maybe we're maybe we're

2039
01:27:06,870 --> 01:27:05,440
just uh

2040
01:27:08,790 --> 01:27:06,880
trying to figure out something that

2041
01:27:10,629 --> 01:27:08,800
people have always figured out ever

2042
01:27:12,950 --> 01:27:10,639
since they started drawing these

2043
01:27:15,350 --> 01:27:12,960
funny-looking shapes and on cave walls

2044
01:27:16,310 --> 01:27:15,360
40 000 years ago we're doing the same

2045
01:27:19,669 --> 01:27:16,320
thing

2046
01:27:21,669 --> 01:27:19,679
couldn't explain we're interacting with

2047
01:27:23,350 --> 01:27:21,679
something we can't explain you know it's

2048
01:27:25,910 --> 01:27:23,360
like the uap we're interacting with the

2049
01:27:27,030 --> 01:27:25,920
uap we can't explain it well thousands

2050
01:27:29,350 --> 01:27:27,040
of years ago they're probably

2051
01:27:31,510 --> 01:27:29,360
interacting with the same phenomena they

2052
01:27:32,550 --> 01:27:31,520
couldn't explain it so we see their

2053
01:27:34,950 --> 01:27:32,560
explanation

2054
01:27:37,510 --> 01:27:34,960
where we see it in the bible in folklore

2055
01:27:39,750 --> 01:27:37,520
and stories of the past and it makes no

2056
01:27:41,669 --> 01:27:39,760
sense to us because they may have been

2057
01:27:43,750 --> 01:27:41,679
trying to explain

2058
01:27:44,709 --> 01:27:43,760
the same phenomena we are experiencing

2059
01:27:46,709 --> 01:27:44,719
today

2060
01:27:48,870 --> 01:27:46,719
you know why is why should we just be

2061
01:27:50,470 --> 01:27:48,880
experiencing uap now

2062
01:27:53,669 --> 01:27:50,480
esp now

2063
01:27:55,590 --> 01:27:53,679
uh near-death experiences now obe now

2064
01:27:57,350 --> 01:27:55,600
people more likely we're human beings

2065
01:27:59,669 --> 01:27:57,360
doesn't matter how what year we were

2066
01:28:01,750 --> 01:27:59,679
born why why didn't they experience it

2067
01:28:04,229 --> 01:28:01,760
thousands of years ago well they may

2068
01:28:05,510 --> 01:28:04,239
have described that and their dreams

2069
01:28:08,870 --> 01:28:05,520
which they couldn't interpret or

2070
01:28:11,189 --> 01:28:08,880
understand uh in in various

2071
01:28:12,629 --> 01:28:11,199
folklore and which leaves us all the

2072
01:28:15,030 --> 01:28:12,639
more perplexed about what they were

2073
01:28:16,310 --> 01:28:15,040
getting at but the thing is they

2074
01:28:18,950 --> 01:28:16,320
explained it in the manner that they

2075
01:28:21,110 --> 01:28:18,960
were only capable of explaining given

2076
01:28:23,350 --> 01:28:21,120
the science of the time

2077
01:28:24,950 --> 01:28:23,360
given their ability to express

2078
01:28:26,550 --> 01:28:24,960
themselves

2079
01:28:28,629 --> 01:28:26,560
at the time

2080
01:28:32,310 --> 01:28:28,639
we're doing the same thing now

2081
01:28:34,870 --> 01:28:32,320
at the time 2021. and and and and going

2082
01:28:37,830 --> 01:28:34,880
back to isaac newton and i don't know

2083
01:28:40,470 --> 01:28:37,840
where things went sideways but before we

2084
01:28:43,270 --> 01:28:40,480
get into a philosophy versus science

2085
01:28:45,110 --> 01:28:43,280
versus consciousness discussion

2086
01:28:47,350 --> 01:28:45,120
um

2087
01:28:49,350 --> 01:28:47,360
his his math

2088
01:28:52,709 --> 01:28:49,360
and the way that he presented it is

2089
01:28:55,110 --> 01:28:52,719
still in use today is the foundation of

2090
01:28:57,430 --> 01:28:55,120
of so much but he was also

2091
01:29:00,470 --> 01:28:57,440
one of the most conscious

2092
01:29:02,149 --> 01:29:00,480
spiritual people out there and he was

2093
01:29:03,030 --> 01:29:02,159
able to

2094
01:29:06,149 --> 01:29:03,040
uh

2095
01:29:08,790 --> 01:29:06,159
accept both worlds and and he was an

2096
01:29:11,270 --> 01:29:08,800
alchemist

2097
01:29:14,470 --> 01:29:11,280
and and he was able to

2098
01:29:15,590 --> 01:29:14,480
to uh appreciate everything and and

2099
01:29:17,590 --> 01:29:15,600
today

2100
01:29:19,830 --> 01:29:17,600
science is completely separated from

2101
01:29:22,470 --> 01:29:19,840
that and so is philosophy and and the

2102
01:29:25,430 --> 01:29:22,480
consciousness community you know it's

2103
01:29:28,390 --> 01:29:25,440
it's it's it's been spread apart when

2104
01:29:30,709 --> 01:29:28,400
just 300 years ago it wasn't that way

2105
01:29:33,189 --> 01:29:30,719
why why do you think the separation has

2106
01:29:34,390 --> 01:29:33,199
happened over time

2107
01:29:37,590 --> 01:29:34,400
well you know

2108
01:29:38,950 --> 01:29:37,600
much of it is science uh and and that's

2109
01:29:40,790 --> 01:29:38,960
the distinction between western and

2110
01:29:41,669 --> 01:29:40,800
eastern sides so you know for western

2111
01:29:43,990 --> 01:29:41,679
science

2112
01:29:45,830 --> 01:29:44,000
uh they'll generally consider the the

2113
01:29:47,750 --> 01:29:45,840
surreal perceptual content of this

2114
01:29:49,030 --> 01:29:47,760
called a peak experience and yeah get

2115
01:29:50,629 --> 01:29:49,040
into that into the book call it a

2116
01:29:52,870 --> 01:29:50,639
picosphere for lack of a better term a

2117
01:29:55,110 --> 01:29:52,880
mystical event something that again

2118
01:29:58,790 --> 01:29:55,120
is is transformative to the individual

2119
01:30:00,790 --> 01:29:58,800
generally positively over time so

2120
01:30:03,030 --> 01:30:00,800
whatever that surreal perceptual content

2121
01:30:05,430 --> 01:30:03,040
is in the form of again nde and ob or

2122
01:30:06,390 --> 01:30:05,440
uap interaction

2123
01:30:08,629 --> 01:30:06,400
many other

2124
01:30:10,149 --> 01:30:08,639
manifestations as well or psychoactive

2125
01:30:12,310 --> 01:30:10,159
effects

2126
01:30:14,229 --> 01:30:12,320
uh it's often written off to a

2127
01:30:15,750 --> 01:30:14,239
psychological neural biological

2128
01:30:18,310 --> 01:30:15,760
abnormality it's

2129
01:30:20,149 --> 01:30:18,320
explained the way

2130
01:30:23,110 --> 01:30:20,159
medically usually as a brain-based

2131
01:30:24,070 --> 01:30:23,120
glitch a misrepresentation of of true

2132
01:30:26,070 --> 01:30:24,080
events

2133
01:30:29,030 --> 01:30:26,080
uh you know your consciousness and

2134
01:30:29,830 --> 01:30:29,040
reality a little glitch or sleep transit

2135
01:30:34,310 --> 01:30:29,840
uh

2136
01:30:36,709 --> 01:30:34,320
hippopotamic or psychoticosis

2137
01:30:39,110 --> 01:30:36,719
depressivization reaction to stress

2138
01:30:41,830 --> 01:30:39,120
there's many ways you can easily write

2139
01:30:43,910 --> 01:30:41,840
it off based on that um

2140
01:30:45,430 --> 01:30:43,920
it's easy and maybe some of them do

2141
01:30:47,510 --> 01:30:45,440
apply

2142
01:30:49,669 --> 01:30:47,520
i don't know

2143
01:30:54,790 --> 01:30:49,679
some of them have merit but

2144
01:30:56,629 --> 01:30:54,800
uh no no uh it's it's not i've

2145
01:30:58,310 --> 01:30:56,639
the point is this the people that have

2146
01:31:00,870 --> 01:30:58,320
these experiences

2147
01:31:03,189 --> 01:31:00,880
they're they're transformed but they're

2148
01:31:04,950 --> 01:31:03,199
they are sane individuals they're from

2149
01:31:06,229 --> 01:31:04,960
all walks of life they're millions of

2150
01:31:08,070 --> 01:31:06,239
individuals

2151
01:31:10,470 --> 01:31:08,080
and uh

2152
01:31:12,629 --> 01:31:10,480
they are suffering needlessly because

2153
01:31:14,550 --> 01:31:12,639
oftentimes they don't get the proper

2154
01:31:17,590 --> 01:31:14,560
counseling that they deserve but this is

2155
01:31:19,430 --> 01:31:17,600
the point the western scientific

2156
01:31:23,030 --> 01:31:19,440
community does not support the

2157
01:31:24,790 --> 01:31:23,040
conclusion by those who have

2158
01:31:26,709 --> 01:31:24,800
with fierce determination believed to

2159
01:31:30,149 --> 01:31:26,719
have interacted with another reality or

2160
01:31:31,910 --> 01:31:30,159
even non-human entities and believe it

2161
01:31:32,950 --> 01:31:31,920
or not everybody

2162
01:31:34,310 --> 01:31:32,960
there are

2163
01:31:36,149 --> 01:31:34,320
many people

2164
01:31:38,550 --> 01:31:36,159
hundreds of thousands if not millions of

2165
01:31:41,430 --> 01:31:38,560
individuals who do claim that to be the

2166
01:31:44,229 --> 01:31:41,440
case they can't all be psychotic there

2167
01:31:46,790 --> 01:31:44,239
is some some good research out there uh

2168
01:31:49,750 --> 01:31:46,800
the dr rick mitchell research

2169
01:31:53,110 --> 01:31:49,760
research foundation um

2170
01:31:54,229 --> 01:31:53,120
did a study i was a part of that

2171
01:31:56,390 --> 01:31:54,239
we published it in the journal of

2172
01:31:58,550 --> 01:31:56,400
scientific exploration over 4 000

2173
01:32:00,390 --> 01:31:58,560
individuals who claimed to have

2174
01:32:02,229 --> 01:32:00,400
interacted with a physical in a physical

2175
01:32:03,030 --> 01:32:02,239
or non-physical way

2176
01:32:06,629 --> 01:32:03,040
with

2177
01:32:09,350 --> 01:32:06,639
a phenomenon that that included an

2178
01:32:11,669 --> 01:32:09,360
unidentified aerial phenomena

2179
01:32:13,189 --> 01:32:11,679
more often than not 75 percent at the

2180
01:32:15,430 --> 01:32:13,199
time they considered it to be a

2181
01:32:18,149 --> 01:32:15,440
non-physical often involving the

2182
01:32:20,229 --> 01:32:18,159
consciousness involving an obe floated

2183
01:32:22,550 --> 01:32:20,239
up to another matrix reality engaging

2184
01:32:25,430 --> 01:32:22,560
with energy beings the greys too but the

2185
01:32:28,070 --> 01:32:25,440
whole gamut of beings but here again

2186
01:32:29,110 --> 01:32:28,080
they're transformed positively

2187
01:32:32,310 --> 01:32:29,120
and here

2188
01:32:33,750 --> 01:32:32,320
maybe that is the potential

2189
01:32:35,350 --> 01:32:33,760
for us to better understand

2190
01:32:38,470 --> 01:32:35,360
consciousness

2191
01:32:40,310 --> 01:32:38,480
uh and to possibly a lot if we

2192
01:32:42,870 --> 01:32:40,320
understood it maybe we could manipulate

2193
01:32:45,510 --> 01:32:42,880
reality better maybe we could understand

2194
01:32:47,430 --> 01:32:45,520
how to heal the body better because we

2195
01:32:49,750 --> 01:32:47,440
do see too although it's not

2196
01:32:51,750 --> 01:32:49,760
conclusively proven but there are

2197
01:32:53,750 --> 01:32:51,760
instances where we do see healing

2198
01:32:55,590 --> 01:32:53,760
effects not only with the placebo effect

2199
01:32:57,910 --> 01:32:55,600
which does occur in about 30 to 40

2200
01:33:00,629 --> 01:32:57,920
percent of the people who are

2201
01:33:02,310 --> 01:33:00,639
given a placebo but we do we do see some

2202
01:33:03,430 --> 01:33:02,320
instances where there are truly

2203
01:33:05,270 --> 01:33:03,440
pronounced

2204
01:33:07,669 --> 01:33:05,280
um

2205
01:33:11,510 --> 01:33:07,679
extraordinary healings that occur

2206
01:33:13,669 --> 01:33:11,520
based either based on prayer or or

2207
01:33:15,910 --> 01:33:13,679
interjection of some type

2208
01:33:17,270 --> 01:33:15,920
even interactions with the uaps people

2209
01:33:19,189 --> 01:33:17,280
claim to have been

2210
01:33:21,030 --> 01:33:19,199
have had healing

2211
01:33:22,790 --> 01:33:21,040
experiences

2212
01:33:24,629 --> 01:33:22,800
bob i need to take a break right here i

2213
01:33:26,629 --> 01:33:24,639
can't i can't blow past this let me get

2214
01:33:29,189 --> 01:33:26,639
this in this is fade to black i'm real

2215
01:33:31,750 --> 01:33:29,199
jimmy church i promise everybody we'll

2216
01:33:32,950 --> 01:33:31,760
finish that thought when we come back

2217
01:33:34,550 --> 01:33:32,960
after this short break i'm your host

2218
01:33:37,510 --> 01:33:34,560
jimmy church this is fade to black our

2219
01:33:46,820 --> 01:33:37,520
guest tonight dr robert davis stay with

2220
01:33:46,830 --> 01:33:57,189
[Music]

2221
01:34:03,430 --> 01:34:00,310
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2222
01:34:05,270 --> 01:34:03,440
you're listening to fade to black

2223
01:34:07,990 --> 01:34:05,280
always on the edge of the hottest

2224
01:34:11,210 --> 01:34:08,000
alternative talk jimmy church with fade

2225
01:34:11,220 --> 01:34:23,430
[Applause]

2226
01:34:26,870 --> 01:34:25,110
when you think about the future of our

2227
01:34:29,990 --> 01:34:26,880
country and where we're headed do you

2228
01:34:31,830 --> 01:34:30,000
wonder about the food supply i do

2229
01:34:34,149 --> 01:34:31,840
disruptions in the food supply chain

2230
01:34:36,790 --> 01:34:34,159
could be disastrous and they usually

2231
01:34:38,870 --> 01:34:36,800
occur with little warning that's why the

2232
01:34:41,109 --> 01:34:38,880
smartest thing you can do today is to

2233
01:34:44,070 --> 01:34:41,119
stockpile emergency food

2234
01:34:46,870 --> 01:34:44,080
water and other essentials i personally

2235
01:34:49,189 --> 01:34:46,880
recommend my patriot supply they're the

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nation's largest emergency preparedness

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01:34:54,229 --> 01:34:51,760
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for more than a decade in fact they're

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01:34:59,990 --> 01:34:56,880
the only source my family trusts for our

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01:35:03,350 --> 01:35:00,000
preparedness plan you should too right

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host jimmy church our guest tonight dr

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robert davis more with uh bob in just a

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is uh dr bob davis and uh bob one of uh

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one of the points uh that we were just

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discussing right before the break i

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think is one of the most important

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things when we're discussing

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uh the universe and the connectivity of

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everything and what consciousness is

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01:38:49,430 --> 01:38:48,400
then we bring in ufos uaps

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um

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01:38:55,910 --> 01:38:53,440
contact with et where there seems to be

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01:38:59,510 --> 01:38:55,920
a very definitive

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01:39:03,030 --> 01:38:59,520
nearly measurable uh thing that takes

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place you you put your thoughts there

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01:39:06,870 --> 01:39:04,560
things happen

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and and i don't think that that is by

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01:39:12,950 --> 01:39:10,719
chance when when things start to show up

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01:39:13,990 --> 01:39:12,960
that indicates to me that

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that

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et

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01:39:19,830 --> 01:39:17,600
intelligent civilizations out there

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01:39:23,030 --> 01:39:19,840
understand consciousness and they

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01:39:25,350 --> 01:39:23,040
respond to us even though we may not

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01:39:28,790 --> 01:39:25,360
know what's going on they do there's

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01:39:33,350 --> 01:39:31,109
yeah there is something to the phenomena

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01:39:34,149 --> 01:39:33,360
and i'm uh you know i'm so reluctant to

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01:39:36,070 --> 01:39:34,159
uh

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01:39:37,910 --> 01:39:36,080
to give my two cents on i'll be very

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01:39:39,590 --> 01:39:37,920
honest with you because

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01:39:41,109 --> 01:39:39,600
no matter what anybody says we're

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01:39:42,550 --> 01:39:41,119
probably wrong

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01:39:44,629 --> 01:39:42,560
and um

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01:39:47,030 --> 01:39:44,639
we speculate and it's fun to do so

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01:39:48,870 --> 01:39:47,040
really is right right right and i and i

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01:39:50,149 --> 01:39:48,880
changed my uh mind

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01:39:51,990 --> 01:39:50,159
uh

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01:39:53,669 --> 01:39:52,000
all the time we're entitled to a

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01:39:56,310 --> 01:39:53,679
personal opinion you know you know i

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01:39:59,189 --> 01:39:56,320
just uh i just wrote a chapter for the

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01:40:00,370 --> 01:39:59,199
book beyond reality that ray hernandez a

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01:40:03,030 --> 01:40:00,380
friend of mine

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01:40:05,030 --> 01:40:03,040
[Music]

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01:40:06,870 --> 01:40:05,040
member of free now the

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01:40:09,109 --> 01:40:06,880
director of the consciousness and

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01:40:11,109 --> 01:40:09,119
contact research institute

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01:40:12,310 --> 01:40:11,119
which i'm also a member of

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01:40:13,669 --> 01:40:12,320
um

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01:40:15,750 --> 01:40:13,679
and he's coming out with a book beyond

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01:40:19,510 --> 01:40:15,760
reality a lot of

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01:40:22,550 --> 01:40:20,629
and

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01:40:25,189 --> 01:40:22,560
from various science backgrounds

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01:40:25,830 --> 01:40:25,199
experiences fascinating book so i wrote

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01:41:01,510 --> 01:40:25,840
a

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01:41:03,830 --> 01:41:01,520
truth there you go figure it out

2357
01:41:05,590 --> 01:41:03,840
where was it uh so this sense of

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01:41:08,629 --> 01:41:05,600
nonsense i think

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01:41:10,149 --> 01:41:08,639
uh and we often uh ascribe or believe in

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01:41:11,830 --> 01:41:10,159
things that are consistent with our

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01:41:13,750 --> 01:41:11,840
belief and we

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01:41:16,310 --> 01:41:13,760
we know that we all make that error in

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01:41:19,109 --> 01:41:16,320
inductive reasoning we do it every day

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01:41:21,510 --> 01:41:19,119
uh as consumers of information and and

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01:41:23,189 --> 01:41:21,520
products at walmart but

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01:41:25,510 --> 01:41:23,199
but nevertheless we should try to learn

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01:41:29,030 --> 01:41:25,520
by our mistakes and be objective as

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01:41:30,629 --> 01:41:29,040
possible easy to say uh i try to be it

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01:41:33,030 --> 01:41:30,639
can't be all the time but we're all

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01:41:34,550 --> 01:41:33,040
human but look so i'm playing around

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01:41:37,189 --> 01:41:34,560
with plasma

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01:41:39,189 --> 01:41:37,199
and and and there's very poor vegas odds

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01:41:41,510 --> 01:41:39,199
on on this one but let me let me explain

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01:41:43,430 --> 01:41:41,520
this alongside okay pal

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01:41:45,750 --> 01:41:43,440
or james i'm really getting punchy it's

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01:41:47,270 --> 01:41:45,760
late for me you know i gotta tell you

2377
01:41:48,709 --> 01:41:47,280
look i made the case that you know

2378
01:41:50,470 --> 01:41:48,719
platforming knows the fourth state of

2379
01:41:52,149 --> 01:41:50,480
matter this is where i'm going with it

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01:41:55,350 --> 01:41:52,159
before i know they're from the green men

2381
01:41:57,350 --> 01:41:55,360
from mars that could be the answer or

2382
01:41:59,910 --> 01:41:57,360
we're the new kids on the block they've

2383
01:42:03,030 --> 01:41:59,920
always been here it's it's a it's not a

2384
01:42:05,910 --> 01:42:03,040
unique idea but i it makes sense to me

2385
01:42:07,830 --> 01:42:05,920
more than anything uh it's like the life

2386
01:42:10,709 --> 01:42:07,840
forms on the water we have them in the

2387
01:42:12,709 --> 01:42:10,719
air but plasma is kind of interesting

2388
01:42:14,790 --> 01:42:12,719
and there's a there's some evidence that

2389
01:42:15,830 --> 01:42:14,800
here again i'm trying to put the pieces

2390
01:42:16,950 --> 01:42:15,840
together

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01:42:18,790 --> 01:42:16,960
why

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01:42:20,709 --> 01:42:18,800
well i'm curious for one i also like to

2393
01:42:23,270 --> 01:42:20,719
love playing chess

2394
01:42:25,910 --> 01:42:23,280
and i look at the documentary like i'm

2395
01:42:28,950 --> 01:42:25,920
playing chess i can move pieces about

2396
01:42:31,590 --> 01:42:28,960
the research evidence um

2397
01:42:33,109 --> 01:42:31,600
to wear it to europe maybe there is some

2398
01:42:36,790 --> 01:42:33,119
victory uh

2399
01:42:39,270 --> 01:42:36,800
in the sense of a journey here's the

2400
01:42:43,270 --> 01:42:39,280
journey with plasma okay we know it's

2401
01:42:45,669 --> 01:42:43,280
the fourth state of plasma right and

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01:42:47,830 --> 01:42:45,679
astrophysicist i believe in the uh

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01:42:51,189 --> 01:42:47,840
harvey rutledge

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01:42:53,590 --> 01:42:51,199
he studied light plasma uh not just like

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01:42:55,430 --> 01:42:53,600
life phenomena in missouri

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01:42:57,109 --> 01:42:55,440
uh for something like ten years back in

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01:42:59,350 --> 01:42:57,119
the 70s

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01:43:01,030 --> 01:42:59,360
it was very common there i'm not even

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01:43:02,310 --> 01:43:01,040
sure if it still is

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01:43:03,350 --> 01:43:02,320
and

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01:43:07,990 --> 01:43:03,360
he

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01:43:12,709 --> 01:43:08,000
and

2413
01:43:14,070 --> 01:43:12,719
looked at as like a game he had the

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01:43:16,470 --> 01:43:14,080
opinion

2415
01:43:19,189 --> 01:43:16,480
that they were pseudostars and they

2416
01:43:21,669 --> 01:43:19,199
would form balls of light divide join

2417
01:43:23,910 --> 01:43:21,679
multiply they spiral

2418
01:43:27,109 --> 01:43:23,920
they go into an open area they hover in

2419
01:43:29,109 --> 01:43:27,119
place they pause they blink out they

2420
01:43:31,669 --> 01:43:29,119
they do all these things strange

2421
01:43:33,669 --> 01:43:31,679
kinematic phenomenological things

2422
01:43:37,669 --> 01:43:33,679
well what do we describe them to

2423
01:43:39,830 --> 01:43:37,679
tectonic stress about ball lightning uh

2424
01:43:41,030 --> 01:43:39,840
what earth lights have they been they've

2425
01:43:41,750 --> 01:43:41,040
been called

2426
01:43:43,510 --> 01:43:41,760
but

2427
01:43:44,550 --> 01:43:43,520
they give the nighttime appearance of a

2428
01:43:47,590 --> 01:43:44,560
uap

2429
01:43:50,830 --> 01:43:47,600
they can present different colors this

2430
01:43:54,310 --> 01:43:50,840
uh fuzzy appearance and how many fuzzy

2431
01:43:57,350 --> 01:43:54,320
appearances the photos uh have we seen

2432
01:43:59,109 --> 01:43:57,360
um so they're not a clear outline i i

2433
01:44:01,350 --> 01:43:59,119
don't recall i was saying a legitimate

2434
01:44:03,109 --> 01:44:01,360
clear well maybe maybe there are i just

2435
01:44:05,270 --> 01:44:03,119
don't know for sure if it was a valid

2436
01:44:08,310 --> 01:44:05,280
ufo but let's say let's add to the

2437
01:44:09,109 --> 01:44:08,320
evidence there's research that's done by

2438
01:44:10,790 --> 01:44:09,119
um

2439
01:44:13,109 --> 01:44:10,800
this is a general physics instituted in

2440
01:44:15,910 --> 01:44:13,119
russia uh this is called the russian

2441
01:44:18,550 --> 01:44:15,920
academy of sciences and they study the

2442
01:44:21,189 --> 01:44:18,560
the behavior of integrative materials

2443
01:44:23,590 --> 01:44:21,199
that are in plasma and they

2444
01:44:27,270 --> 01:44:23,600
basically came to the bottom line

2445
01:44:29,270 --> 01:44:27,280
opinion that it it it appeared as a a a

2446
01:44:31,350 --> 01:44:29,280
primitive life form

2447
01:44:34,149 --> 01:44:31,360
uh besides the fact that it gives us

2448
01:44:36,070 --> 01:44:34,159
this uh radiation there's about being

2449
01:44:38,550 --> 01:44:36,080
light emissions uh

2450
01:44:41,990 --> 01:44:38,560
here again they can form into different

2451
01:44:45,830 --> 01:44:42,000
shapes morph split all that

2452
01:44:46,830 --> 01:44:45,840
but then it doesn't end there

2453
01:44:49,350 --> 01:44:46,840
dr

2454
01:44:51,430 --> 01:44:49,360
massimo uh durrani he's an

2455
01:44:54,229 --> 01:44:51,440
astrophysicist he studied the has down

2456
01:44:56,870 --> 01:44:54,239
lights that's more well known right

2457
01:44:59,270 --> 01:44:56,880
uh and he studied them for decades at

2458
01:45:00,790 --> 01:44:59,280
least for two that i'm aware of and he

2459
01:45:03,109 --> 01:45:00,800
concluded

2460
01:45:05,910 --> 01:45:03,119
very similar things that ruthless

2461
01:45:08,310 --> 01:45:05,920
concluded in fact rutledge at the very

2462
01:45:10,310 --> 01:45:08,320
end said that he communicated or was

2463
01:45:13,270 --> 01:45:10,320
able to interact

2464
01:45:15,830 --> 01:45:13,280
purposefully willfully with these live

2465
01:45:18,149 --> 01:45:15,840
phenomena

2466
01:45:21,270 --> 01:45:18,159
thierry durrani i doubt massimo t or

2467
01:45:23,189 --> 01:45:21,280
durani knew of rutledge maybe they did

2468
01:45:24,470 --> 01:45:23,199
uh it's possible it's possible since

2469
01:45:27,910 --> 01:45:24,480
they're in the same field but

2470
01:45:29,990 --> 01:45:27,920
nevertheless he always ascribed to the

2471
01:45:33,109 --> 01:45:30,000
lights that the light phenomenon has

2472
01:45:35,590 --> 01:45:33,119
down as a geomagnetic

2473
01:45:37,830 --> 01:45:35,600
uh uh plasma and plasma base but not a

2474
01:45:39,590 --> 01:45:37,840
life form now that something that's

2475
01:45:42,229 --> 01:45:39,600
earthly in nature

2476
01:45:44,470 --> 01:45:42,239
uh nevertheless he came up with the same

2477
01:45:47,669 --> 01:45:44,480
conclusions

2478
01:45:49,669 --> 01:45:47,679
that rutledge did i was able to interact

2479
01:45:51,350 --> 01:45:49,679
with it i was able to communicate with

2480
01:45:53,590 --> 01:45:51,360
them there was synchronicity there was

2481
01:45:55,830 --> 01:45:53,600
hypnagogic images they made weird

2482
01:45:57,990 --> 01:45:55,840
geometric shapes in the sky

2483
01:46:00,470 --> 01:45:58,000
very similar conclusions to what ballet

2484
01:46:02,950 --> 01:46:00,480
and heineken came to when they talked

2485
01:46:04,950 --> 01:46:02,960
about interactive phenomena that they

2486
01:46:07,590 --> 01:46:04,960
have a control over us

2487
01:46:09,669 --> 01:46:07,600
that they uh speak to our spiritual side

2488
01:46:12,470 --> 01:46:09,679
they say they they uh they sometimes

2489
01:46:15,189 --> 01:46:12,480
love to induce uh what they what was the

2490
01:46:16,950 --> 01:46:15,199
quote about marvel and terror something

2491
01:46:19,350 --> 01:46:16,960
like that uh

2492
01:46:21,830 --> 01:46:19,360
this again anecdotal information but how

2493
01:46:24,709 --> 01:46:21,840
best to understand a phenomenon than to

2494
01:46:27,109 --> 01:46:24,719
hear it from those who experience it

2495
01:46:28,550 --> 01:46:27,119
uh but we need the physical we

2496
01:46:30,550 --> 01:46:28,560
definitely need the physical

2497
01:46:32,790 --> 01:46:30,560
understanding of the phenomena as well

2498
01:46:35,590 --> 01:46:32,800
it does appear to be both and we need to

2499
01:46:37,910 --> 01:46:35,600
integrate both pieces of information

2500
01:46:40,310 --> 01:46:37,920
possibly to better understand you would

2501
01:46:41,590 --> 01:46:40,320
think at least so is there a type of

2502
01:46:43,109 --> 01:46:41,600
consciousness is your type of

2503
01:46:44,709 --> 01:46:43,119
intelligence

2504
01:46:46,870 --> 01:46:44,719
with this

2505
01:46:48,709 --> 01:46:46,880
type of phenomena

2506
01:46:50,629 --> 01:46:48,719
it's hard to say but

2507
01:46:52,950 --> 01:46:50,639
why don't why don't we take it to the

2508
01:46:55,750 --> 01:46:52,960
next level based on some of this based

2509
01:46:58,950 --> 01:46:55,760
on even what david baum said

2510
01:46:59,910 --> 01:46:58,960
he regarded plasma as a basic life form

2511
01:47:01,910 --> 01:46:59,920
as well

2512
01:47:02,870 --> 01:47:01,920
now not that they're right

2513
01:47:08,709 --> 01:47:02,880
but

2514
01:47:10,950 --> 01:47:08,719
with the uap during ce5's

2515
01:47:13,830 --> 01:47:10,960
rig up some

2516
01:47:16,070 --> 01:47:13,840
electric magnetic triggers uh optical

2517
01:47:18,229 --> 01:47:16,080
the microwave uh

2518
01:47:20,310 --> 01:47:18,239
what i don't understand the high tech

2519
01:47:21,510 --> 01:47:20,320
here that's gary vereese and david

2520
01:47:24,149 --> 01:47:21,520
beatty's

2521
01:47:27,270 --> 01:47:24,159
area more than my mine i think but they

2522
01:47:30,070 --> 01:47:27,280
can be optimized to modify uh let's

2523
01:47:32,390 --> 01:47:30,080
pulse lights towards them not interfere

2524
01:47:35,189 --> 01:47:32,400
with the airplanes of course that that

2525
01:47:37,750 --> 01:47:35,199
can be avoided obviously uh and we

2526
01:47:39,669 --> 01:47:37,760
certainly would but very the amplitude

2527
01:47:42,470 --> 01:47:39,679
the phase the frequency see if we can

2528
01:47:45,189 --> 01:47:42,480
interact something along the lines of uh

2529
01:47:47,030 --> 01:47:45,199
i hate to use that analogy to that movie

2530
01:47:49,270 --> 01:47:47,040
what was it that the name of that movie

2531
01:47:51,830 --> 01:47:49,280
where that uh scientist the

2532
01:47:53,350 --> 01:47:51,840
anthropologists interacted with the

2533
01:47:55,750 --> 01:47:53,360
uh creature

2534
01:47:58,149 --> 01:47:55,760
uh forbidden planet

2535
01:48:00,870 --> 01:47:58,159
no no more recent um

2536
01:48:03,189 --> 01:48:00,880
uh and they had different weird shapes

2537
01:48:05,910 --> 01:48:03,199
symbolic shapes on the glass

2538
01:48:08,149 --> 01:48:05,920
oh oh you're talking about arrival yes

2539
01:48:10,629 --> 01:48:08,159
arrival yes yes that's what i mean well

2540
01:48:12,870 --> 01:48:10,639
you know it may not be too far from that

2541
01:48:15,030 --> 01:48:12,880
maybe we can do that with um i don't

2542
01:48:17,189 --> 01:48:15,040
know emitted beams people with for a

2543
01:48:19,910 --> 01:48:17,199
better understanding and i in that area

2544
01:48:20,709 --> 01:48:19,920
could consider that as a possibility or

2545
01:48:22,709 --> 01:48:20,719
not

2546
01:48:24,470 --> 01:48:22,719
but let's make more use of these ce

2547
01:48:26,550 --> 01:48:24,480
fights which are very popular and there

2548
01:48:29,510 --> 01:48:26,560
certainly is something to it people do

2549
01:48:31,350 --> 01:48:29,520
claim to interact with it and to

2550
01:48:33,030 --> 01:48:31,360
willfully bring it

2551
01:48:36,310 --> 01:48:33,040
down um

2552
01:48:38,550 --> 01:48:36,320
and and i'd like to start

2553
01:48:40,550 --> 01:48:38,560
participating it i did as i mentioned

2554
01:48:43,910 --> 01:48:40,560
earlier at mike burberry's at the darby

2555
01:48:45,750 --> 01:48:43,920
ranch in dave city and um are you just

2556
01:48:47,830 --> 01:48:45,760
going to we're going to try to film it

2557
01:48:49,430 --> 01:48:47,840
with dave betty and gary voorhees we're

2558
01:48:51,990 --> 01:48:49,440
going to bring out the crew and see if

2559
01:48:53,590 --> 01:48:52,000
we can uh throw some high-tech at it

2560
01:48:56,149 --> 01:48:53,600
that i'm going to sit back and watch and

2561
01:48:59,109 --> 01:48:56,159
enjoy well you just hope you hit

2562
01:49:01,830 --> 01:48:59,119
something huh bob you just got back uh

2563
01:49:04,229 --> 01:49:01,840
from the ce5 did you did you see

2564
01:49:08,310 --> 01:49:04,239
anything interesting

2565
01:49:10,550 --> 01:49:08,320
uh i didn't some people did uh

2566
01:49:11,430 --> 01:49:10,560
i i wouldn't say there was a home run

2567
01:49:14,070 --> 01:49:11,440
but there

2568
01:49:15,830 --> 01:49:14,080
may have been afterwards after i left

2569
01:49:17,510 --> 01:49:15,840
there have been from what i understand

2570
01:49:19,910 --> 01:49:17,520
in the past there

2571
01:49:22,550 --> 01:49:19,920
and i've seen the pictures it's on their

2572
01:49:24,950 --> 01:49:22,560
website and i don't have that link to me

2573
01:49:27,030 --> 01:49:24,960
offhand but here again

2574
01:49:28,550 --> 01:49:27,040
what is it i don't doubt that people are

2575
01:49:31,350 --> 01:49:28,560
interacting with something is it

2576
01:49:34,070 --> 01:49:31,360
something like the hasdalen lights or

2577
01:49:37,350 --> 01:49:34,080
or something that we simply

2578
01:49:39,270 --> 01:49:37,360
can only theorize about have you had uh

2579
01:49:40,830 --> 01:49:39,280
your own sighting do you consider

2580
01:49:42,390 --> 01:49:40,840
yourself an

2581
01:49:46,390 --> 01:49:42,400
experiencer

2582
01:49:47,030 --> 01:49:46,400
uh back in 2012 uh sedona arizona

2583
01:49:50,550 --> 01:49:47,040
i

2584
01:49:53,669 --> 01:49:50,560
uh

2585
01:49:56,550 --> 01:49:53,679
exploring the night walking around

2586
01:49:58,470 --> 01:49:56,560
i saw an iron job in the night sky clear

2587
01:50:00,390 --> 01:49:58,480
it clear an orange globe it shouldn't be

2588
01:50:03,189 --> 01:50:00,400
there

2589
01:50:05,350 --> 01:50:03,199
hard to estimate the distance in size

2590
01:50:06,310 --> 01:50:05,360
i'm not good at that

2591
01:50:08,470 --> 01:50:06,320
but

2592
01:50:09,990 --> 01:50:08,480
clearly unusual it could have been

2593
01:50:12,470 --> 01:50:10,000
electromagnetic

2594
01:50:15,109 --> 01:50:12,480
it could have been a few things but uh

2595
01:50:16,550 --> 01:50:15,119
hard to say but as i kept watching and

2596
01:50:19,030 --> 01:50:16,560
all

2597
01:50:21,750 --> 01:50:19,040
one other one either emerged from behind

2598
01:50:23,990 --> 01:50:21,760
it or from within it it's hard to

2599
01:50:25,910 --> 01:50:24,000
determine the depth of the relationship

2600
01:50:29,510 --> 01:50:25,920
between the two

2601
01:50:31,910 --> 01:50:29,520
they were two separate orange orbs

2602
01:50:34,470 --> 01:50:31,920
typical of what you see

2603
01:50:36,950 --> 01:50:34,480
consistently when we when we look at or

2604
01:50:39,109 --> 01:50:36,960
pictures

2605
01:50:40,629 --> 01:50:39,119
of the orange variety

2606
01:50:42,550 --> 01:50:40,639
and um

2607
01:50:44,310 --> 01:50:42,560
after a few minutes they winked out i

2608
01:50:46,310 --> 01:50:44,320
left an impression right after that i

2609
01:50:47,430 --> 01:50:46,320
wrote the book the ufo phenomenon should

2610
01:50:50,470 --> 01:50:47,440
i believe

2611
01:50:52,629 --> 01:50:50,480
i always enjoyed that millions of us did

2612
01:50:54,870 --> 01:50:52,639
back in the star trek days and

2613
01:50:57,750 --> 01:50:54,880
apollo and gemini and merc come on how

2614
01:51:00,390 --> 01:50:57,760
can you not so so we got hardwired with

2615
01:51:02,229 --> 01:51:00,400
that but uh when you see it

2616
01:51:04,790 --> 01:51:02,239
yeah it is

2617
01:51:07,030 --> 01:51:04,800
it gets your attention and and when the

2618
01:51:07,830 --> 01:51:07,040
interaction is a little bit more

2619
01:51:10,149 --> 01:51:07,840
uh

2620
01:51:11,189 --> 01:51:10,159
close and personal i would suspect it

2621
01:51:13,589 --> 01:51:11,199
gets

2622
01:51:16,310 --> 01:51:13,599
more of one's attention

2623
01:51:18,390 --> 01:51:16,320
and i don't think i want that

2624
01:51:20,390 --> 01:51:18,400
but i also

2625
01:51:22,470 --> 01:51:20,400
maybe two three years later had a shared

2626
01:51:23,430 --> 01:51:22,480
death experience

2627
01:51:27,030 --> 01:51:23,440
uh

2628
01:51:29,510 --> 01:51:27,040
with

2629
01:51:31,750 --> 01:51:29,520
uh suddenly

2630
01:51:32,870 --> 01:51:31,760
well let's put it this way

2631
01:51:39,109 --> 01:51:32,880
i

2632
01:51:40,629 --> 01:51:39,119
felt uh

2633
01:51:41,830 --> 01:51:40,639
like you're going to die couldn't

2634
01:51:44,550 --> 01:51:41,840
breathe

2635
01:51:47,350 --> 01:51:44,560
but when i woke up that morning right

2636
01:51:50,149 --> 01:51:47,360
after that that that

2637
01:51:51,990 --> 01:51:50,159
call it a lucid dream i knew

2638
01:51:53,750 --> 01:51:52,000
my friend had died

2639
01:51:55,510 --> 01:51:53,760
i knew it and knowing this it's called

2640
01:51:56,950 --> 01:51:55,520
that consciousness gut feeling whatever

2641
01:51:58,390 --> 01:51:56,960
you want i knew it

2642
01:52:01,030 --> 01:51:58,400
um

2643
01:52:02,390 --> 01:52:01,040
just like a predator made you know

2644
01:52:05,350 --> 01:52:02,400
or the animal may know there's a

2645
01:52:07,750 --> 01:52:05,360
predator about not even seeing hearing

2646
01:52:10,149 --> 01:52:07,760
it's just knowing

2647
01:52:12,870 --> 01:52:10,159
just knowing and we can learn from their

2648
01:52:17,589 --> 01:52:12,880
brains by the way it gets to esp we

2649
01:52:19,750 --> 01:52:17,599
could touch upon that uh learn from our

2650
01:52:21,750 --> 01:52:19,760
by their behavior possibly

2651
01:52:24,390 --> 01:52:21,760
um

2652
01:52:26,709 --> 01:52:24,400
yeah i found out she died that morning

2653
01:52:28,470 --> 01:52:26,719
okay shared that experience and i wrote

2654
01:52:31,270 --> 01:52:28,480
i wrote then wrote the book life left to

2655
01:52:33,109 --> 01:52:31,280
death an analysis of the evidence not

2656
01:52:34,950 --> 01:52:33,119
surprising huh a little curious right

2657
01:52:37,270 --> 01:52:34,960
yeah yeah and

2658
01:52:39,669 --> 01:52:37,280
then i had a uh i won't go into detail i

2659
01:52:42,709 --> 01:52:39,679
had a kundalini-like thing

2660
01:52:45,189 --> 01:52:42,719
very cool very very cool

2661
01:52:47,910 --> 01:52:45,199
very cool well at the time it was knocks

2662
01:52:50,709 --> 01:52:47,920
your socks off and again coffee doesn't

2663
01:52:53,189 --> 01:52:50,719
taste the way you normally

2664
01:52:55,270 --> 01:52:53,199
have it the next morning so

2665
01:52:59,589 --> 01:52:55,280
let alone everything else but but that

2666
01:53:00,390 --> 01:52:59,599
aside uh it's all good real good and

2667
01:53:02,470 --> 01:53:00,400
that

2668
01:53:04,310 --> 01:53:02,480
led me to write unseen forces the last

2669
01:53:06,149 --> 01:53:04,320
book the integration of science reality

2670
01:53:08,310 --> 01:53:06,159
and you

2671
01:53:11,030 --> 01:53:08,320
which by the way the documentary in part

2672
01:53:12,950 --> 01:53:11,040
is is it's conceptualized on that's what

2673
01:53:14,790 --> 01:53:12,960
got dave's interest

2674
01:53:17,510 --> 01:53:14,800
and we took it from there and how it

2675
01:53:19,430 --> 01:53:17,520
evolves is another story but we are you

2676
01:53:24,629 --> 01:53:19,440
know we are again in the process of just

2677
01:53:29,830 --> 01:53:27,430
we need to and we do it with no money

2678
01:53:31,270 --> 01:53:29,840
and we need support obviously and i and

2679
01:53:41,910 --> 01:53:31,280
i

2680
01:53:42,950 --> 01:53:41,920
um

2681
01:53:45,830 --> 01:53:42,960
so uh

2682
01:53:49,830 --> 01:53:45,840
am i asking for money well uh no i'm

2683
01:53:53,350 --> 01:53:49,840
acting like a producer okay uh

2684
01:53:54,550 --> 01:53:53,360
i'm doing my job you know i but but look

2685
01:53:56,470 --> 01:53:54,560
you know what i'm doing you know what

2686
01:53:59,669 --> 01:53:56,480
i'm talking to here i'm talking to the

2687
01:54:00,790 --> 01:53:59,679
guy that maybe has another six months to

2688
01:54:03,750 --> 01:54:00,800
a year

2689
01:54:06,830 --> 01:54:03,760
97 years old resonates with all this

2690
01:54:10,229 --> 01:54:06,840
jazz and the documentary has real deep

2691
01:54:12,470 --> 01:54:10,239
pockets um and willing to put it to some

2692
01:54:15,109 --> 01:54:12,480
good use we have to we have to travel

2693
01:54:17,270 --> 01:54:15,119
america of course to interview these uh

2694
01:54:20,709 --> 01:54:17,280
these many people and it's certainly not

2695
01:54:23,189 --> 01:54:20,719
cheap uh ideally we you know one person

2696
01:54:25,189 --> 01:54:23,199
three people can do it um

2697
01:54:27,589 --> 01:54:25,199
please

2698
01:54:29,270 --> 01:54:27,599
we're not asking you for money you know

2699
01:54:30,390 --> 01:54:29,280
but we're looking really for that if you

2700
01:54:32,870 --> 01:54:30,400
want to give it to it we're not going to

2701
01:54:34,149 --> 01:54:32,880
turn it down don't go go we think to a

2702
01:54:35,510 --> 01:54:34,159
good cause

2703
01:54:37,990 --> 01:54:35,520
and um

2704
01:54:40,790 --> 01:54:38,000
and thank you in advance for considering

2705
01:54:43,510 --> 01:54:40,800
it that's very kind of you to do so um

2706
01:54:45,350 --> 01:54:43,520
for whoever may uh but nevertheless uh

2707
01:54:47,830 --> 01:54:45,360
it's an awkward aspect of of the

2708
01:54:50,229 --> 01:54:47,840
business but it is it's the way it goes

2709
01:54:52,390 --> 01:54:50,239
it simply is the nature of the beast so

2710
01:54:54,229 --> 01:54:52,400
we're looking at organizations obviously

2711
01:54:55,830 --> 01:54:54,239
but look let's get back on uh let's get

2712
01:54:58,229 --> 01:54:55,840
back on test please

2713
01:54:59,350 --> 01:54:58,239
uh is so um

2714
01:55:00,950 --> 01:54:59,360
there is

2715
01:55:03,270 --> 01:55:00,960
there's two

2716
01:55:05,030 --> 01:55:03,280
and you clearly defined this earlier i

2717
01:55:07,910 --> 01:55:05,040
couldn't agree with you more

2718
01:55:09,830 --> 01:55:07,920
we have the things that are so easy to

2719
01:55:11,270 --> 01:55:09,840
see at night

2720
01:55:14,950 --> 01:55:11,280
um these

2721
01:55:16,629 --> 01:55:14,960
energies plasma they're lit whatever

2722
01:55:19,350 --> 01:55:16,639
they may be and they may some of them

2723
01:55:21,510 --> 01:55:19,360
may be physical but then there's the

2724
01:55:23,910 --> 01:55:21,520
daylight stuff

2725
01:55:27,990 --> 01:55:23,920
where there's no plasma involved where

2726
01:55:30,229 --> 01:55:28,000
there's an obvious physicality to

2727
01:55:31,589 --> 01:55:30,239
uh these sightings i have seen them

2728
01:55:34,229 --> 01:55:31,599
myself

2729
01:55:37,750 --> 01:55:34,239
um what do we make of that type of

2730
01:55:40,950 --> 01:55:37,760
interaction that seems to be bob

2731
01:55:43,589 --> 01:55:40,960
some of these physical craft

2732
01:55:46,390 --> 01:55:43,599
also phase in and phase out there's some

2733
01:55:47,750 --> 01:55:46,400
kind of interdimensionality to them

2734
01:55:50,709 --> 01:55:47,760
whether it's coming from another

2735
01:55:53,990 --> 01:55:50,719
dimension another universe i don't know

2736
01:55:55,990 --> 01:55:54,000
but they certainly appear to

2737
01:55:56,709 --> 01:55:56,000
show up and then leave

2738
01:55:58,870 --> 01:55:56,719
yeah

2739
01:56:01,990 --> 01:55:58,880
or maybe i should buy stock

2740
01:56:03,189 --> 01:56:02,000
in lmt tomorrow you know lockheed martin

2741
01:56:04,950 --> 01:56:03,199
uh

2742
01:56:07,669 --> 01:56:04,960
you know you can't you can't dismiss

2743
01:56:09,109 --> 01:56:07,679
that you really can't uh i i i don't

2744
01:56:10,470 --> 01:56:09,119
dismiss anything

2745
01:56:12,790 --> 01:56:10,480
and um

2746
01:56:14,470 --> 01:56:12,800
to say definitely yes definitely no it's

2747
01:56:18,070 --> 01:56:14,480
inappropriate but what in order to

2748
01:56:19,750 --> 01:56:18,080
understand what governs and regulates uh

2749
01:56:23,350 --> 01:56:19,760
this phenomenon whatever you want to

2750
01:56:24,550 --> 01:56:23,360
call it the the obvious complex physical

2751
01:56:26,629 --> 01:56:24,560
kinematic

2752
01:56:28,709 --> 01:56:26,639
phenomenological but also the

2753
01:56:31,109 --> 01:56:28,719
non-physical the subjective there is

2754
01:56:33,669 --> 01:56:31,119
apparent the paranormal aspect to it

2755
01:56:35,350 --> 01:56:33,679
there is a the transpersonal experience

2756
01:56:37,270 --> 01:56:35,360
after it's uh

2757
01:56:39,990 --> 01:56:37,280
people are changed by it and when

2758
01:56:41,030 --> 01:56:40,000
something alters one's reality to such a

2759
01:56:45,589 --> 01:56:41,040
dramatic

2760
01:56:47,189 --> 01:56:45,599
it's obviously a real experience but

2761
01:56:50,310 --> 01:56:47,199
it's symptomatic certainly of something

2762
01:56:51,830 --> 01:56:50,320
that's profound and unexplainable but

2763
01:56:53,589 --> 01:56:51,840
way beyond

2764
01:56:57,030 --> 01:56:53,599
the customary where

2765
01:57:00,070 --> 01:56:57,040
it is so bizarre uh that your concept of

2766
01:57:02,629 --> 01:57:00,080
reality is altered seriously uh to the

2767
01:57:05,030 --> 01:57:02,639
point where you don't feel like you're

2768
01:57:07,510 --> 01:57:05,040
important as important anymore there is

2769
01:57:09,270 --> 01:57:07,520
a bigger picture to life

2770
01:57:12,149 --> 01:57:09,280
you don't you're not the center of the

2771
01:57:14,310 --> 01:57:12,159
universe right there's ego dissolution

2772
01:57:16,709 --> 01:57:14,320
ontological shock as it's sometimes

2773
01:57:18,149 --> 01:57:16,719
described and and maybe we should all

2774
01:57:20,310 --> 01:57:18,159
experience some of that if it's going to

2775
01:57:23,109 --> 01:57:20,320
make us a little bit more humane and and

2776
01:57:24,950 --> 01:57:23,119
that's what some of the data is telling

2777
01:57:27,189 --> 01:57:24,960
us that people who do have these kinds

2778
01:57:29,750 --> 01:57:27,199
of peak experiences again have a

2779
01:57:30,550 --> 01:57:29,760
positive transformative background or

2780
01:57:31,830 --> 01:57:30,560
or

2781
01:57:34,310 --> 01:57:31,840
outcome

2782
01:57:36,390 --> 01:57:34,320
in their behavior it's like it's like

2783
01:57:38,470 --> 01:57:36,400
psychoactive drugs it's a recent study

2784
01:57:39,910 --> 01:57:38,480
of john hopkins university

2785
01:57:44,310 --> 01:57:39,920
they give

2786
01:57:48,790 --> 01:57:46,950
microdoses of psilocybin

2787
01:57:51,109 --> 01:57:48,800
something and i forget the exact number

2788
01:57:53,430 --> 01:57:51,119
but 44 or so

2789
01:57:56,470 --> 01:57:53,440
actually believed firmly

2790
01:57:57,430 --> 01:57:56,480
in a subre in the supreme being

2791
01:57:59,030 --> 01:57:57,440
post

2792
01:58:00,790 --> 01:57:59,040
psilocybin

2793
01:58:03,030 --> 01:58:00,800
now

2794
01:58:04,870 --> 01:58:03,040
drug or not

2795
01:58:07,030 --> 01:58:04,880
if something is going to be given to you

2796
01:58:10,149 --> 01:58:07,040
externally and gonna alter your

2797
01:58:11,910 --> 01:58:10,159
viewpoint on something so profound

2798
01:58:13,030 --> 01:58:11,920
as that

2799
01:58:15,350 --> 01:58:13,040
uh

2800
01:58:17,430 --> 01:58:15,360
what does that say can drug really do

2801
01:58:19,510 --> 01:58:17,440
that or are you actually experiencing an

2802
01:58:22,310 --> 01:58:19,520
alternate reality whereby the experience

2803
01:58:24,790 --> 01:58:22,320
is so real that it has more than a a

2804
01:58:27,589 --> 01:58:24,800
minimal impression on your belief system

2805
01:58:30,870 --> 01:58:27,599
it's real and it becomes an internal

2806
01:58:32,550 --> 01:58:30,880
subjective part that you can't let go

2807
01:58:34,470 --> 01:58:32,560
and with fierce determination you have

2808
01:58:36,310 --> 01:58:34,480
to find an answer this is what people

2809
01:58:38,149 --> 01:58:36,320
are experiencing to some extent but they

2810
01:58:40,390 --> 01:58:38,159
when they interact with ufos and their

2811
01:58:43,189 --> 01:58:40,400
occupants so they say

2812
01:58:45,030 --> 01:58:43,199
what they're experiencing who knows

2813
01:58:47,990 --> 01:58:45,040
but you know

2814
01:58:50,229 --> 01:58:48,000
if if graves are going to come down and

2815
01:58:52,310 --> 01:58:50,239
collect sperm and ova

2816
01:58:55,910 --> 01:58:52,320
from human beings on a

2817
01:58:57,790 --> 01:58:55,920
cold table uh with cold

2818
01:58:58,870 --> 01:58:57,800
steely precision uh

2819
01:59:01,430 --> 01:58:58,880
[Music]

2820
01:59:03,750 --> 01:59:01,440
why don't they just land their ufo on

2821
01:59:05,350 --> 01:59:03,760
the roof of a sperm bank and and go to

2822
01:59:06,470 --> 01:59:05,360
the sixth floor and get all the sperm

2823
01:59:09,510 --> 01:59:06,480
they want

2824
01:59:11,270 --> 01:59:09,520
you know i don't i don't get it uh

2825
01:59:12,229 --> 01:59:11,280
you know it goes back to

2826
01:59:13,910 --> 01:59:12,239
uh

2827
01:59:16,709 --> 01:59:13,920
some of the stuff that people are

2828
01:59:18,229 --> 01:59:16,719
talking about so you see the insanity

2829
01:59:20,870 --> 01:59:18,239
you see that you then you see the

2830
01:59:22,550 --> 01:59:20,880
decency you see you see the beauty you

2831
01:59:25,189 --> 01:59:22,560
see the love and then you see the the

2832
01:59:27,350 --> 01:59:25,199
nonsense and the the goofy part of it

2833
01:59:30,310 --> 01:59:27,360
the the tricksters all of that stuff

2834
01:59:31,830 --> 01:59:30,320
it's it's a mixture of sense and

2835
01:59:33,669 --> 01:59:31,840
nonsense and which

2836
01:59:35,270 --> 01:59:33,679
which makes the phenomena all of these

2837
01:59:37,350 --> 01:59:35,280
phenomena a little bit more com

2838
01:59:39,910 --> 01:59:37,360
difficult to understand but the point is

2839
01:59:41,830 --> 01:59:39,920
this when people have these these other

2840
01:59:44,950 --> 01:59:41,840
body experiences

2841
01:59:47,270 --> 01:59:44,960
triggered by either uap psychoactive

2842
01:59:49,589 --> 01:59:47,280
drug nde obe they generally have the

2843
01:59:51,109 --> 01:59:49,599
same outcomes the same

2844
01:59:52,950 --> 01:59:51,119
psycho spiritual

2845
01:59:55,189 --> 01:59:52,960
positive outcomes where they become less

2846
01:59:56,470 --> 01:59:55,199
materialistic more loving and caring and

2847
01:59:58,790 --> 01:59:56,480
compassionate

2848
02:00:00,950 --> 01:59:58,800
more empathetic more spiritual in nature

2849
02:00:03,270 --> 02:00:00,960
less interested in the stock market and

2850
02:00:04,229 --> 02:00:03,280
and more family oriented

2851
02:00:05,430 --> 02:00:04,239
um

2852
02:00:07,910 --> 02:00:05,440
so

2853
02:00:10,229 --> 02:00:07,920
how can how can one change their

2854
02:00:13,270 --> 02:00:10,239
viewpoints on so so many important

2855
02:00:15,669 --> 02:00:13,280
things in such a dramatic way from from

2856
02:00:16,629 --> 02:00:15,679
one incident let alone many

2857
02:00:18,550 --> 02:00:16,639
women

2858
02:00:20,229 --> 02:00:18,560
intend to have before we head to the

2859
02:00:22,790 --> 02:00:20,239
break i'll tell you this

2860
02:00:24,149 --> 02:00:22,800
the most spiritual person in the world

2861
02:00:26,790 --> 02:00:24,159
is uh

2862
02:00:29,350 --> 02:00:26,800
is an atheist uh physicist when the

2863
02:00:32,470 --> 02:00:29,360
plane is going down i guarantee happy

2864
02:00:34,629 --> 02:00:32,480
that's that's that is that is a

2865
02:00:35,669 --> 02:00:34,639
spiritual awakening right there at an

2866
02:00:37,430 --> 02:00:35,679
instant

2867
02:00:39,189 --> 02:00:37,440
let's take our break right here this is

2868
02:00:42,310 --> 02:00:39,199
fade to black i am your host jimmy

2869
02:00:44,870 --> 02:00:42,320
church our guest tonight dr robert davis

2870
02:00:46,709 --> 02:00:44,880
he's written three books unseen forces

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the integration of science reality and

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you life after death and analysis of

2873
02:00:54,070 --> 02:00:50,400
evidence

2874
02:00:55,990 --> 02:00:54,080
and the ufo phenomenon should i believe

2875
02:00:59,589 --> 02:00:56,000
more with dr davis when we come back

2876
02:01:06,470 --> 02:01:01,870
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2961
02:05:03,890 --> 02:05:00,069
this is fade to black with jimmy church

2962
02:05:17,750 --> 02:05:03,900
on the game changer radio network

2963
02:05:21,270 --> 02:05:19,589
welcome back fade to black i am your

2964
02:05:22,709 --> 02:05:21,280
host jimmy church our guest tonight dr

2965
02:05:24,950 --> 02:05:22,719
bob davis

2966
02:05:27,189 --> 02:05:24,960
and uh

2967
02:05:29,189 --> 02:05:27,199
this has been a the the perfect night on

2968
02:05:30,470 --> 02:05:29,199
the show for me

2969
02:05:33,350 --> 02:05:30,480
and

2970
02:05:36,950 --> 02:05:33,360
earlier tonight bob you you mentioned

2971
02:05:39,589 --> 02:05:36,960
esp uh two or three times uh actually

2972
02:05:42,229 --> 02:05:39,599
in a weird way i'm gonna segue into this

2973
02:05:44,229 --> 02:05:42,239
but it may not be the way that you think

2974
02:05:45,830 --> 02:05:44,239
but i i do believe that everything is

2975
02:05:49,350 --> 02:05:45,840
connected

2976
02:05:51,030 --> 02:05:49,360
we have today numerous i've had so many

2977
02:05:54,069 --> 02:05:51,040
people on this show

2978
02:05:57,669 --> 02:05:54,079
that have made some kind of

2979
02:06:00,950 --> 02:05:57,679
uh conscious connection

2980
02:06:02,790 --> 02:06:00,960
to something that seems to be off planet

2981
02:06:05,109 --> 02:06:02,800
call it entanglement

2982
02:06:07,030 --> 02:06:05,119
you know channeling whatever whatever

2983
02:06:09,350 --> 02:06:07,040
that definition is

2984
02:06:11,030 --> 02:06:09,360
but when these messages are coming

2985
02:06:15,589 --> 02:06:11,040
through

2986
02:06:18,709 --> 02:06:15,599
is that a form of esp

2987
02:06:20,629 --> 02:06:18,719
that we don't understand are we talking

2988
02:06:22,629 --> 02:06:20,639
about the same thing and once this

2989
02:06:25,030 --> 02:06:22,639
domino falls it's just everything

2990
02:06:26,950 --> 02:06:25,040
connected

2991
02:06:29,669 --> 02:06:26,960
yeah you know there's not not enough

2992
02:06:32,069 --> 02:06:29,679
research there here again uh there's a

2993
02:06:34,149 --> 02:06:32,079
stigma by the uh you know psychics so

2994
02:06:35,990 --> 02:06:34,159
what that implies what it means how the

2995
02:06:37,990 --> 02:06:36,000
media treats it uh

2996
02:06:41,189 --> 02:06:38,000
you know at the windbridge institute uh

2997
02:06:43,510 --> 02:06:41,199
julie bichell's done a lot of

2998
02:06:45,189 --> 02:06:43,520
well-controlled studies with uh

2999
02:06:47,830 --> 02:06:45,199
with the mediums

3000
02:06:48,950 --> 02:06:47,840
who are trained to become mediums what

3001
02:06:50,790 --> 02:06:48,960
does it mean there's different kinds of

3002
02:06:52,870 --> 02:06:50,800
mediums we don't want to get into that

3003
02:06:54,629 --> 02:06:52,880
but you know they're using another sense

3004
02:06:56,629 --> 02:06:54,639
to obtain information

3005
02:06:58,310 --> 02:06:56,639
beyond their so-called physical such

3006
02:06:59,669 --> 02:06:58,320
senses maybe they're using another

3007
02:07:01,669 --> 02:06:59,679
physical sense we just haven't

3008
02:07:03,910 --> 02:07:01,679
identified it yet somewhere in the brain

3009
02:07:06,550 --> 02:07:03,920
but it's an aspect of knowing or tapping

3010
02:07:09,189 --> 02:07:06,560
into a resonant field you know utilizing

3011
02:07:11,270 --> 02:07:09,199
who knows maybe torsion torch and energy

3012
02:07:13,830 --> 02:07:11,280
as a carrier wave you know we we can

3013
02:07:15,510 --> 02:07:13,840
speculate and with good reason but

3014
02:07:17,830 --> 02:07:15,520
mediums here and this is these

3015
02:07:20,310 --> 02:07:17,840
experiments are coming up with over 80

3016
02:07:22,470 --> 02:07:20,320
accuracy in terms of information from

3017
02:07:24,470 --> 02:07:22,480
disease deceased relatives about the

3018
02:07:26,470 --> 02:07:24,480
person in another room who's shielded

3019
02:07:28,550 --> 02:07:26,480
well-blinded from from

3020
02:07:31,109 --> 02:07:28,560
not being able to obtain any information

3021
02:07:33,189 --> 02:07:31,119
well is that from the deceased truly

3022
02:07:35,270 --> 02:07:33,199
or is it possibly as you say you know

3023
02:07:37,189 --> 02:07:35,280
due to the suicide hypothesis as it's

3024
02:07:39,350 --> 02:07:37,199
called some aspect of esp reading a

3025
02:07:41,510 --> 02:07:39,360
person's mind they try to control for

3026
02:07:44,149 --> 02:07:41,520
that and you know if you listen to the

3027
02:07:46,629 --> 02:07:44,159
experimenter they do successfully and

3028
02:07:48,790 --> 02:07:46,639
they do believe some of them are capable

3029
02:07:51,189 --> 02:07:48,800
of doing just that obtaining accurate

3030
02:07:53,109 --> 02:07:51,199
information from the deceased it's like

3031
02:07:55,510 --> 02:07:53,119
near-death experiences

3032
02:07:58,229 --> 02:07:55,520
there are rare cases

3033
02:08:00,149 --> 02:07:58,239
excuse me whereby

3034
02:08:01,830 --> 02:08:00,159
the only possibility of obtaining the

3035
02:08:04,229 --> 02:08:01,840
type of information that the person who

3036
02:08:06,950 --> 02:08:04,239
had a near-death experience actually did

3037
02:08:09,030 --> 02:08:06,960
was by actually experiencing another

3038
02:08:10,950 --> 02:08:09,040
reality interacting with another person

3039
02:08:12,950 --> 02:08:10,960
who gave them information about say

3040
02:08:14,870 --> 02:08:12,960
family well you could talk to evan

3041
02:08:16,550 --> 02:08:14,880
alexander who again will be in the

3042
02:08:18,310 --> 02:08:16,560
documentary and whether or not he talks

3043
02:08:19,830 --> 02:08:18,320
about it but you can see him in youtube

3044
02:08:22,229 --> 02:08:19,840
but he discusses it

3045
02:08:24,390 --> 02:08:22,239
quite quite frequently he obtained

3046
02:08:26,149 --> 02:08:24,400
information from a woman he met during

3047
02:08:28,950 --> 02:08:26,159
his and the e and many of you knew are

3048
02:08:31,270 --> 02:08:28,960
well aware of this story but if i may

3049
02:08:33,430 --> 02:08:31,280
um he obtained information from a woman

3050
02:08:35,990 --> 02:08:33,440
who said that

3051
02:08:38,709 --> 02:08:36,000
she was his sister who died you know

3052
02:08:40,310 --> 02:08:38,719
long before he he was born and gave him

3053
02:08:42,310 --> 02:08:40,320
information that he shared with his

3054
02:08:45,109 --> 02:08:42,320
parents and when he did once he was

3055
02:08:46,790 --> 02:08:45,119
revived from his nde

3056
02:08:48,310 --> 02:08:46,800
he gave that information again to his

3057
02:08:50,310 --> 02:08:48,320
parents and the parents looked at each

3058
02:08:53,350 --> 02:08:50,320
other and couldn't uh couldn't

3059
02:08:55,189 --> 02:08:53,360
understand how he could have retained it

3060
02:08:57,109 --> 02:08:55,199
they saw they never

3061
02:08:58,790 --> 02:08:57,119
gave him that information so whatever

3062
02:09:00,950 --> 02:08:58,800
you want to call these kinds of

3063
02:09:02,550 --> 02:09:00,960
incidences they happen it's hard to

3064
02:09:05,189 --> 02:09:02,560
document it's hard to prove it's

3065
02:09:07,669 --> 02:09:05,199
anecdotal it doesn't satisfy those are

3066
02:09:09,510 --> 02:09:07,679
described as scientific methodology and

3067
02:09:11,589 --> 02:09:09,520
newtonian principles here again that's

3068
02:09:13,510 --> 02:09:11,599
why we have to incorporate the science

3069
02:09:15,270 --> 02:09:13,520
of the subjective look at human

3070
02:09:16,950 --> 02:09:15,280
entanglement not only from a

3071
02:09:19,189 --> 02:09:16,960
consciousness perspective not only from

3072
02:09:20,870 --> 02:09:19,199
a laboratory's perspective where dean

3073
02:09:22,950 --> 02:09:20,880
raiden has proven it

3074
02:09:24,470 --> 02:09:22,960
or or the conscious global project and

3075
02:09:27,270 --> 02:09:24,480
dean reagan will be again on the

3076
02:09:30,310 --> 02:09:27,280
documentary but and where roger nelson

3077
02:09:31,830 --> 02:09:30,320
and the duns have proven it uh robert

3078
02:09:33,589 --> 02:09:31,840
john but

3079
02:09:39,109 --> 02:09:33,599
also

3080
02:09:41,350 --> 02:09:39,119
the people themselves the anecdotal

3081
02:09:43,589 --> 02:09:41,360
evidence the people who believe without

3082
02:09:45,750 --> 02:09:43,599
a doubt who have experience in altered

3083
02:09:47,910 --> 02:09:45,760
reality reality we will have them in our

3084
02:09:50,149 --> 02:09:47,920
documentary the experiences they're just

3085
02:09:51,990 --> 02:09:50,159
as important as the scientists it's not

3086
02:09:53,990 --> 02:09:52,000
more important who knows better about it

3087
02:09:56,229 --> 02:09:54,000
the anomaly than those that experience

3088
02:09:58,069 --> 02:09:56,239
it let's listen to them we need to

3089
02:09:59,669 --> 02:09:58,079
better understand how to do qualitative

3090
02:10:01,830 --> 02:09:59,679
research to better understand the

3091
02:10:04,229 --> 02:10:01,840
essence truly of what they truly

3092
02:10:06,470 --> 02:10:04,239
experience because language doesn't get

3093
02:10:08,390 --> 02:10:06,480
added it doesn't accurately describe

3094
02:10:10,310 --> 02:10:08,400
altered perceptions so

3095
02:10:12,229 --> 02:10:10,320
distortions of time and space that they

3096
02:10:15,270 --> 02:10:12,239
all report and that's described by

3097
02:10:17,270 --> 02:10:15,280
quantum mechanics but and not newtonian

3098
02:10:18,069 --> 02:10:17,280
principles so that's why it's regarded

3099
02:10:19,350 --> 02:10:18,079
as

3100
02:10:21,589 --> 02:10:19,360
hearsay

3101
02:10:24,390 --> 02:10:21,599
anecdotal not to be taken seriously a

3102
02:10:26,550 --> 02:10:24,400
brain glitch psychosis whatever whatever

3103
02:10:28,629 --> 02:10:26,560
now nah the evidence is there it's

3104
02:10:30,149 --> 02:10:28,639
subtle but it's real if you've got to

3105
02:10:33,189 --> 02:10:30,159
look hard you've got to write three

3106
02:10:37,030 --> 02:10:33,199
books like a nerd who i am you know

3107
02:10:38,790 --> 02:10:37,040
looking at near-death experiences obese

3108
02:10:39,990 --> 02:10:38,800
all the evidence consciousness quantum

3109
02:10:41,350 --> 02:10:40,000
mechanics

3110
02:10:43,990 --> 02:10:41,360
everything

3111
02:10:45,189 --> 02:10:44,000
integrating it into a coherent hole not

3112
02:10:46,870 --> 02:10:45,199
that i'm right

3113
02:10:49,430 --> 02:10:46,880
this is just what i'm doing you guys

3114
02:10:51,750 --> 02:10:49,440
have figured out you know here it is you

3115
02:10:54,310 --> 02:10:51,760
know throw it away don't watch don't

3116
02:10:55,750 --> 02:10:54,320
don't sponsor it don't give us two cents

3117
02:10:57,510 --> 02:10:55,760
that's up to you

3118
02:10:59,430 --> 02:10:57,520
and that's your right we grant you free

3119
02:11:02,229 --> 02:10:59,440
will of course

3120
02:11:04,069 --> 02:11:02,239
this is wild stuff and and i'm sure not

3121
02:11:06,390 --> 02:11:04,079
all of it it's going to be proven to be

3122
02:11:08,550 --> 02:11:06,400
valid in the future but i bet there's

3123
02:11:10,470 --> 02:11:08,560
going to a lot of it will be

3124
02:11:12,310 --> 02:11:10,480
uh and that alone

3125
02:11:13,750 --> 02:11:12,320
is significant right then and there and

3126
02:11:15,750 --> 02:11:13,760
that's why we need to incorporate the

3127
02:11:18,149 --> 02:11:15,760
science of the subjective the essence of

3128
02:11:21,030 --> 02:11:18,159
the experience and to incorporate it

3129
02:11:24,310 --> 02:11:21,040
with the physical to better understand

3130
02:11:27,189 --> 02:11:24,320
what an overarching science or a concept

3131
02:11:28,629 --> 02:11:27,199
of true reality is where the subjective

3132
02:11:31,830 --> 02:11:28,639
and the physical

3133
02:11:34,470 --> 02:11:31,840
is integrated into a coherent whole and

3134
02:11:37,350 --> 02:11:34,480
we see that that clearly must be the

3135
02:11:40,870 --> 02:11:37,360
case otherwise otherwise it's just notes

3136
02:11:44,149 --> 02:11:42,629
it's like it's just people who make

3137
02:11:45,910 --> 02:11:44,159
movies uh

3138
02:11:47,910 --> 02:11:45,920
you take bits and pieces from interviews

3139
02:11:51,669 --> 02:11:47,920
you weave with music

3140
02:11:53,990 --> 02:11:51,679
they could exist on in a camera or or on

3141
02:11:56,390 --> 02:11:54,000
some technology it takes a it takes

3142
02:11:59,350 --> 02:11:56,400
someone creative to make music to make

3143
02:12:01,750 --> 02:11:59,360
it entertaining to make it meaningful

3144
02:12:03,750 --> 02:12:01,760
and it's rare but that's the subjective

3145
02:12:06,229 --> 02:12:03,760
the science of the subjective what is it

3146
02:12:08,149 --> 02:12:06,239
that does that we don't understand that

3147
02:12:10,470 --> 02:12:08,159
nor do we incorporate it in our

3148
02:12:11,990 --> 02:12:10,480
understanding of reality if people are

3149
02:12:13,669 --> 02:12:12,000
saying that they're interacting with the

3150
02:12:15,830 --> 02:12:13,679
right phenomena of some type they're

3151
02:12:17,030 --> 02:12:15,840
interacting with these beings they're

3152
02:12:18,390 --> 02:12:17,040
proven to be

3153
02:12:21,109 --> 02:12:18,400
sane

3154
02:12:22,870 --> 02:12:21,119
and that needs to be done too uh well

3155
02:12:25,109 --> 02:12:22,880
why is it you know

3156
02:12:26,870 --> 02:12:25,119
becau because they need to be treated

3157
02:12:29,109 --> 02:12:26,880
appropriately if they're not

3158
02:12:31,189 --> 02:12:29,119
and and the point is uh these

3159
02:12:33,510 --> 02:12:31,199
experiences are valid not inconsistent

3160
02:12:35,990 --> 02:12:33,520
but they're valid and highly meaningful

3161
02:12:37,830 --> 02:12:36,000
and largely ignored but and they and

3162
02:12:39,750 --> 02:12:37,840
they it must stop and that this

3163
02:12:41,589 --> 02:12:39,760
documentary is not about really making

3164
02:12:43,510 --> 02:12:41,599
money it's about shifting the needle

3165
02:12:47,350 --> 02:12:43,520
trying to incorporate a paradigm shift

3166
02:12:50,390 --> 02:12:47,360
that that utilizes the subjective uh the

3167
02:12:52,310 --> 02:12:50,400
science of the subjective and and by

3168
02:12:54,629 --> 02:12:52,320
means of looking at anomalous

3169
02:12:57,510 --> 02:12:54,639
experiences whereby these kinds of

3170
02:13:00,069 --> 02:12:57,520
unusual events are transforming lives

3171
02:13:02,229 --> 02:13:00,079
and and because it is in such meaningful

3172
02:13:04,870 --> 02:13:02,239
pronounced ways that that should be

3173
02:13:07,589 --> 02:13:04,880
considered an aspect of reality and

3174
02:13:10,390 --> 02:13:07,599
taken seriously and not these people

3175
02:13:11,589 --> 02:13:10,400
should not be criticized at all just the

3176
02:13:13,750 --> 02:13:11,599
opposite

3177
02:13:18,709 --> 02:13:13,760
it made them to be better humans and we

3178
02:13:22,709 --> 02:13:20,870
do you feel that

3179
02:13:24,709 --> 02:13:22,719
it's also

3180
02:13:26,310 --> 02:13:24,719
we don't have a way to we don't have

3181
02:13:29,109 --> 02:13:26,320
words

3182
02:13:32,390 --> 02:13:29,119
that are defined correctly

3183
02:13:34,470 --> 02:13:32,400
to to speak about any of this phenomena

3184
02:13:36,790 --> 02:13:34,480
it's a communication thing that's one of

3185
02:13:38,550 --> 02:13:36,800
the problems right the language fails us

3186
02:13:40,790 --> 02:13:38,560
in that regard

3187
02:13:42,870 --> 02:13:40,800
because we often don't know what we're

3188
02:13:45,189 --> 02:13:42,880
talking about when we everybody use the

3189
02:13:47,750 --> 02:13:45,199
term consciousness and nobody knows what

3190
02:13:49,990 --> 02:13:47,760
that means but what else do we have so

3191
02:13:51,589 --> 02:13:50,000
we use it uh and it means a million

3192
02:13:53,990 --> 02:13:51,599
different things and and

3193
02:13:55,589 --> 02:13:54,000
nevertheless but but look yeah people

3194
02:13:58,229 --> 02:13:55,599
had all of these experiences and what do

3195
02:14:01,430 --> 02:13:58,239
they all say uh my displacements were

3196
02:14:03,990 --> 02:14:01,440
subject to my will i i i i zoom in and

3197
02:14:07,189 --> 02:14:04,000
out with my vision uh i see everywhere

3198
02:14:11,910 --> 02:14:10,149
i see inside the tree

3199
02:14:15,589 --> 02:14:11,920
all of that stuff time you know time

3200
02:14:17,350 --> 02:14:15,599
doesn't exist uh on the other side time

3201
02:14:19,350 --> 02:14:17,360
that there's another reality there's a

3202
02:14:21,350 --> 02:14:19,360
different space colors are more vibrant

3203
02:14:22,870 --> 02:14:21,360
and it's other beings and all of that

3204
02:14:23,990 --> 02:14:22,880
stuff that we hear

3205
02:14:25,589 --> 02:14:24,000
okay

3206
02:14:27,589 --> 02:14:25,599
why are they all saying that you know

3207
02:14:29,109 --> 02:14:27,599
quantum physics explains some of that

3208
02:14:31,669 --> 02:14:29,119
explain some of those distortions and

3209
02:14:33,669 --> 02:14:31,679
perception but but that doesn't do me

3210
02:14:36,149 --> 02:14:33,679
any good unless you experience it it's

3211
02:14:38,310 --> 02:14:36,159
like love exactly i have a friend that

3212
02:14:41,589 --> 02:14:38,320
that doesn't know what love is

3213
02:14:42,629 --> 02:14:41,599
you know so you got to experience it to

3214
02:14:44,229 --> 02:14:42,639
know it

3215
02:14:45,990 --> 02:14:44,239
uh and

3216
02:14:47,430 --> 02:14:46,000
and i got experience yeah i don't want

3217
02:14:50,550 --> 02:14:47,440
to i'm not looking forward towards an

3218
02:14:52,709 --> 02:14:50,560
mde anytime soon but but in order to

3219
02:14:54,390 --> 02:14:52,719
know what these people are mean you know

3220
02:14:55,910 --> 02:14:54,400
past present future exists

3221
02:14:57,910 --> 02:14:55,920
simultaneously

3222
02:14:58,790 --> 02:14:57,920
you know it's like being able to throw a

3223
02:15:03,109 --> 02:14:58,800
ball

3224
02:15:05,109 --> 02:15:03,119
simultaneously to one person at the same

3225
02:15:07,270 --> 02:15:05,119
time you know that's the law of

3226
02:15:10,069 --> 02:15:07,280
superposition go figure that one out but

3227
02:15:11,589 --> 02:15:10,079
physics explains that you know

3228
02:15:14,310 --> 02:15:11,599
this is the work welcome to the world of

3229
02:15:16,950 --> 02:15:14,320
quantum physics right you know quantum

3230
02:15:19,030 --> 02:15:16,960
be you know we know electrons

3231
02:15:21,830 --> 02:15:19,040
photons they all behave like this so

3232
02:15:24,550 --> 02:15:21,840
we're composed of it and maybe uh maybe

3233
02:15:27,350 --> 02:15:24,560
that's why one reason why we act like

3234
02:15:29,430 --> 02:15:27,360
subatomic particles in many ways uh it's

3235
02:15:30,870 --> 02:15:29,440
why so too look look we're

3236
02:15:32,390 --> 02:15:30,880
interconnected with everything let's

3237
02:15:35,030 --> 02:15:32,400
look at this human resonance the

3238
02:15:37,430 --> 02:15:35,040
geomagnetic resonance of planet earth is

3239
02:15:39,430 --> 02:15:37,440
eight degrees right we know that and we

3240
02:15:42,069 --> 02:15:39,440
also know what

3241
02:15:43,189 --> 02:15:42,079
we know that uh uh alpha wave in the

3242
02:15:44,550 --> 02:15:43,199
brain i'll tell you the wave in the

3243
02:15:45,910 --> 02:15:44,560
brain and you know once you close your

3244
02:15:47,750 --> 02:15:45,920
eyes you go into alpha we bought the

3245
02:15:49,990 --> 02:15:47,760
mouth and soon there after stator waves

3246
02:15:51,669 --> 02:15:50,000
it's around eight it hurts saudis i mean

3247
02:15:53,589 --> 02:15:51,679
eight hertz human residency

3248
02:15:56,069 --> 02:15:53,599
electromagnetics and she had see how

3249
02:15:58,229 --> 02:15:56,079
late it is yeah no you're doing great i

3250
02:15:59,990 --> 02:15:58,239
really yeah no i'm not complaining no

3251
02:16:01,669 --> 02:16:00,000
you're on it you're on a roll bob you're

3252
02:16:04,069 --> 02:16:01,679
on a roll

3253
02:16:05,270 --> 02:16:04,079
water the electromagnetic resonance of

3254
02:16:07,189 --> 02:16:05,280
water

3255
02:16:09,990 --> 02:16:07,199
is eight hertz

3256
02:16:12,709 --> 02:16:10,000
we're all we're connected with

3257
02:16:14,390 --> 02:16:12,719
why not that we evolve planet earth our

3258
02:16:16,550 --> 02:16:14,400
brain is darn good at

3259
02:16:18,870 --> 02:16:16,560
understanding our physical world it

3260
02:16:20,550 --> 02:16:18,880
should be it came out of the primordial

3261
02:16:22,390 --> 02:16:20,560
soup at least that's what the materials

3262
02:16:24,229 --> 02:16:22,400
will tell you maybe it did maybe it

3263
02:16:26,229 --> 02:16:24,239
didn't but it's got to do that but

3264
02:16:30,790 --> 02:16:26,239
that's all it does it impedes our

3265
02:16:35,429 --> 02:16:33,429
impede our ability what about ayahuasca

3266
02:16:36,469 --> 02:16:35,439
size years and other things you know

3267
02:16:39,509 --> 02:16:36,479
that's it

3268
02:16:41,509 --> 02:16:39,519
ayahuasca ayahuasca well yeah

3269
02:16:43,589 --> 02:16:41,519
well you know i'm tempted to do these

3270
02:16:45,270 --> 02:16:43,599
everybody microdosing philosophy i'm

3271
02:16:46,870 --> 02:16:45,280
tempted i'm reluctant though i don't

3272
02:16:49,509 --> 02:16:46,880
want to play around with brain chemistry

3273
02:16:51,270 --> 02:16:49,519
that to begin with i just it's too dicey

3274
02:16:53,190 --> 02:16:51,280
right i did that too much as a teenager

3275
02:16:55,830 --> 02:16:53,200
in central park back in the 60s i don't

3276
02:16:58,469 --> 02:16:55,840
want to go there right

3277
02:17:05,509 --> 02:16:58,479
if you can see jimmy he's bent over

3278
02:17:10,549 --> 02:17:08,230
what's so fascinating with me about

3279
02:17:13,429 --> 02:17:10,559
ayahuasca and dmt in general first off

3280
02:17:15,990 --> 02:17:13,439
dmt is is is produced naturally in our

3281
02:17:18,309 --> 02:17:16,000
in our brain anyway

3282
02:17:20,150 --> 02:17:18,319
but the experiences

3283
02:17:22,629 --> 02:17:20,160
of from those

3284
02:17:24,950 --> 02:17:22,639
uh that that talk about where where they

3285
02:17:26,790 --> 02:17:24,960
go and what they have seen

3286
02:17:29,110 --> 02:17:26,800
clearly is

3287
02:17:32,469 --> 02:17:29,120
is it's a parallel world it's it's

3288
02:17:34,709 --> 02:17:32,479
another dimension that is as physical as

3289
02:17:36,870 --> 02:17:34,719
you and i right now

3290
02:17:38,389 --> 02:17:36,880
there is something to that that is being

3291
02:17:39,270 --> 02:17:38,399
introduced

3292
02:17:44,790 --> 02:17:39,280
uh

3293
02:17:47,349 --> 02:17:44,800
you know if you want to be a

3294
02:17:49,830 --> 02:17:47,359
a string theorist or some quantum

3295
02:17:52,309 --> 02:17:49,840
theoretical physicist and and try to

3296
02:17:55,589 --> 02:17:52,319
convince me about 11 dimensions

3297
02:17:58,469 --> 02:17:55,599
or you know the multiverse

3298
02:18:00,709 --> 02:17:58,479
you the science should be focusing on on

3299
02:18:01,990 --> 02:18:00,719
ayahuasca and and what is happening

3300
02:18:03,830 --> 02:18:02,000
there

3301
02:18:07,429 --> 02:18:03,840
well you know

3302
02:18:11,910 --> 02:18:07,439
like paradigm shifts it it takes a slow

3303
02:18:13,910 --> 02:18:11,920
time to make any meaningful progress um

3304
02:18:15,990 --> 02:18:13,920
we hope to maybe help along those lines

3305
02:18:17,750 --> 02:18:16,000
but that aside i keep uh

3306
02:18:19,750 --> 02:18:17,760
the thing is they are seeing some

3307
02:18:24,070 --> 02:18:19,760
progress with

3308
02:18:24,870 --> 02:18:24,080
uh dmt psilocybin we see benefits with

3309
02:18:26,870 --> 02:18:24,880
with

3310
02:18:29,270 --> 02:18:26,880
in the cases of severe depression where

3311
02:18:31,509 --> 02:18:29,280
people who have not been able to be

3312
02:18:32,790 --> 02:18:31,519
treated to be treated

3313
02:18:34,709 --> 02:18:32,800
reasonably well

3314
02:18:36,870 --> 02:18:34,719
with psychoactive agents

3315
02:18:39,669 --> 02:18:36,880
uh still much more research to do

3316
02:18:42,230 --> 02:18:39,679
likewise with ptsd likewise with a lot

3317
02:18:44,950 --> 02:18:42,240
of types of addictive behaviors that

3318
02:18:46,709 --> 02:18:44,960
they are seeing some benefits using it

3319
02:18:48,790 --> 02:18:46,719
medically you know thomas mckinnon was

3320
02:18:50,389 --> 02:18:48,800
right back in the 60s when he

3321
02:18:52,709 --> 02:18:50,399
saw that these kinds of drugs have

3322
02:18:54,790 --> 02:18:52,719
medicinal purposes it seems it seems and

3323
02:18:56,790 --> 02:18:54,800
look it only took us how many years

3324
02:18:57,830 --> 02:18:56,800
since he was talking about it but it was

3325
02:18:59,750 --> 02:18:57,840
illegal

3326
02:19:01,429 --> 02:18:59,760
you know science they don't want to do

3327
02:19:03,990 --> 02:19:01,439
who's what granting agencies are going

3328
02:19:06,389 --> 02:19:04,000
to fund lsd and psilocybin back in the

3329
02:19:08,549 --> 02:19:06,399
60s good luck with that one you did

3330
02:19:10,469 --> 02:19:08,559
they'd arrest you first now they're just

3331
02:19:12,790 --> 02:19:10,479
coming around to doing that and they're

3332
02:19:15,990 --> 02:19:12,800
seeing tremendous benefits my gosh let

3333
02:19:18,230 --> 02:19:16,000
alone with uh you know cannabis and cbd

3334
02:19:20,230 --> 02:19:18,240
and other types you got to use it wisely

3335
02:19:21,990 --> 02:19:20,240
it gets ahead of the curve and people

3336
02:19:24,629 --> 02:19:22,000
misuse it and too many young are doing

3337
02:19:26,950 --> 02:19:24,639
it not cool gotta be regulated much more

3338
02:19:28,950 --> 02:19:26,960
but there's there is definite positives

3339
02:19:31,349 --> 02:19:28,960
to all of this we just have to learn

3340
02:19:33,429 --> 02:19:31,359
more about it and see the data before we

3341
02:19:36,230 --> 02:19:33,439
know the proper doses who's who'll

3342
02:19:39,509 --> 02:19:36,240
benefit most more specific information

3343
02:19:41,190 --> 02:19:39,519
cause effect etc side effects my gosh

3344
02:19:42,870 --> 02:19:41,200
you shouldn't you know it's a little

3345
02:19:44,950 --> 02:19:42,880
ahead of the curve in some ways but it's

3346
02:19:46,950 --> 02:19:44,960
a good conceptually it's good but

3347
02:19:51,990 --> 02:19:46,960
nevertheless

3348
02:19:55,110 --> 02:19:52,000
it's corey after 12 and i should be uh

3349
02:19:57,510 --> 02:19:56,870
said it's just the opposite ain't it

3350
02:19:59,990 --> 02:19:57,520
yeah

3351
02:20:01,429 --> 02:20:00,000
but but but here's the thing

3352
02:20:02,389 --> 02:20:01,439
uh when

3353
02:20:04,389 --> 02:20:02,399
you have

3354
02:20:08,309 --> 02:20:04,399
somebody described their ayahuasca

3355
02:20:10,950 --> 02:20:08,319
experience and and and and meeting a

3356
02:20:13,510 --> 02:20:10,960
god-like spiritual figure there

3357
02:20:15,830 --> 02:20:13,520
and the description of that and then we

3358
02:20:17,910 --> 02:20:15,840
look at the description of these uh

3359
02:20:19,510 --> 02:20:17,920
extraterrestrial light beings and then

3360
02:20:22,230 --> 02:20:19,520
we go back into

3361
02:20:24,630 --> 02:20:22,240
uh the biblical text and and ancient

3362
02:20:25,910 --> 02:20:24,640
egypt and and you jump back

3363
02:20:28,870 --> 02:20:25,920
millennia

3364
02:20:32,710 --> 02:20:28,880
where these descriptions are exactly the

3365
02:20:33,590 --> 02:20:32,720
same that we hear about in 2021

3366
02:20:40,230 --> 02:20:33,600
the

3367
02:20:44,309 --> 02:20:40,240
even along those lines i'm glad you

3368
02:20:46,950 --> 02:20:44,319
pointed it out uh we see the uap more

3369
02:20:48,790 --> 02:20:46,960
for ufo morph over time it's been

3370
02:20:51,190 --> 02:20:48,800
brought out uh

3371
02:20:53,750 --> 02:20:51,200
edgar egregan i forget his how to

3372
02:20:57,270 --> 02:20:53,760
pronounce his name a professor i believe

3373
02:20:57,830 --> 02:20:57,280
in university i can't recall penn

3374
02:21:00,309 --> 02:20:57,840
it makes state

3375
02:21:02,469 --> 02:21:00,319
good case many others have too about how

3376
02:21:04,790 --> 02:21:02,479
that it morphed over time the airships

3377
02:21:07,110 --> 02:21:04,800
of the 1890s when in other words when

3378
02:21:09,590 --> 02:21:07,120
dirigible started appearing and people

3379
02:21:11,349 --> 02:21:09,600
started reporting uh unusual anomalous

3380
02:21:13,190 --> 02:21:11,359
light dirigibles when none were really

3381
02:21:16,150 --> 02:21:13,200
there just like we see it

3382
02:21:17,910 --> 02:21:16,160
report aerial events now when no

3383
02:21:20,870 --> 02:21:17,920
explanation for it in terms of

3384
02:21:22,710 --> 02:21:20,880
traditional craft

3385
02:21:24,309 --> 02:21:22,720
and then then we get the foo fighters in

3386
02:21:26,870 --> 02:21:24,319
world war ii and it morphs into

3387
02:21:28,710 --> 02:21:26,880
contactees in the 50s and then betty and

3388
02:21:31,670 --> 02:21:28,720
barney hill and

3389
02:21:33,429 --> 02:21:31,680
abduction started about and um uh and

3390
02:21:36,230 --> 02:21:33,439
then what uh

3391
02:21:38,309 --> 02:21:36,240
now you're getting tic tacs uh you now

3392
02:21:40,070 --> 02:21:38,319
see e5 you're getting tic tac to these

3393
02:21:42,469 --> 02:21:40,080
these things that's trying to tell us

3394
02:21:43,670 --> 02:21:42,479
something i i don't know people come up

3395
02:21:46,309 --> 02:21:43,680
with different theories along those

3396
02:21:48,230 --> 02:21:46,319
lines and and it sounds plausible you

3397
02:21:49,830 --> 02:21:48,240
know you know it doesn't mean it's right

3398
02:21:51,990 --> 02:21:49,840
you know you can make i can make a case

3399
02:21:54,389 --> 02:21:52,000
here are they is there a game is there a

3400
02:21:56,469 --> 02:21:54,399
lesson that they're trying to provide

3401
02:21:58,550 --> 02:21:56,479
for us is there a spiritual

3402
02:22:00,950 --> 02:21:58,560
entrance here what about crop circles is

3403
02:22:02,389 --> 02:22:00,960
there something valid with that

3404
02:22:04,790 --> 02:22:02,399
because these lights are often

3405
02:22:06,790 --> 02:22:04,800
associated with the formation of crop

3406
02:22:08,309 --> 02:22:06,800
circles are often

3407
02:22:11,510 --> 02:22:08,319
neglected

3408
02:22:13,110 --> 02:22:11,520
topic area i rarely discussed i don't

3409
02:22:16,070 --> 02:22:13,120
understand why

3410
02:22:17,910 --> 02:22:16,080
maybe the best evidence of uaps

3411
02:22:21,270 --> 02:22:17,920
in terms of their validity

3412
02:22:23,190 --> 02:22:21,280
uh it's it's is that unless it's a trick

3413
02:22:26,070 --> 02:22:23,200
of some kind a

3414
02:22:28,870 --> 02:22:26,080
laser projection by a satellite to

3415
02:22:32,630 --> 02:22:28,880
confuse us for whatever reason i i don't

3416
02:22:34,150 --> 02:22:32,640
dispel anything these days a microwave

3417
02:22:36,070 --> 02:22:34,160
energy that's being that that's

3418
02:22:37,349 --> 02:22:36,080
imploding the nose from within these

3419
02:22:40,150 --> 02:22:37,359
these grain

3420
02:22:42,150 --> 02:22:40,160
but people going into the uh areas and

3421
02:22:44,870 --> 02:22:42,160
and having anomalous events although

3422
02:22:47,429 --> 02:22:44,880
placebo event you know

3423
02:22:49,590 --> 02:22:47,439
preconceived notions expectations you

3424
02:22:50,389 --> 02:22:49,600
never know what's real what's not real

3425
02:22:52,070 --> 02:22:50,399
but

3426
02:22:53,590 --> 02:22:52,080
there are some very interesting

3427
02:22:56,230 --> 02:22:53,600
phenomena here

3428
02:22:58,469 --> 02:22:56,240
um and people are studying symbols i'd

3429
02:23:00,230 --> 02:22:58,479
like to see more research being applied

3430
02:23:02,230 --> 02:23:00,240
however maybe there's something

3431
02:23:05,429 --> 02:23:02,240
meaningful here i don't know

3432
02:23:07,750 --> 02:23:05,439
but we still focus on the his historical

3433
02:23:09,670 --> 02:23:07,760
we're still focused on the retrospective

3434
02:23:12,389 --> 02:23:09,680
not enough on the prospective kinds of

3435
02:23:13,910 --> 02:23:12,399
research in uap we need some of that we

3436
02:23:14,790 --> 02:23:13,920
need some of the history but you know

3437
02:23:16,070 --> 02:23:14,800
what

3438
02:23:18,070 --> 02:23:16,080
i don't think we're going to learn a

3439
02:23:21,110 --> 02:23:18,080
great deal more about the phenomenon by

3440
02:23:24,230 --> 02:23:21,120
just focusing all our attention on that

3441
02:23:26,710 --> 02:23:24,240
i commend those uh who talk about the

3442
02:23:29,590 --> 02:23:26,720
past we have to we learned we do learn

3443
02:23:30,950 --> 02:23:29,600
from it i applaud them i truly do i

3444
02:23:33,270 --> 02:23:30,960
respect them

3445
02:23:36,309 --> 02:23:33,280
for their hard work and and we should be

3446
02:23:38,230 --> 02:23:36,319
familiar with the history of ufology at

3447
02:23:40,630 --> 02:23:38,240
least what's real and the problem is

3448
02:23:43,990 --> 02:23:40,640
oftentimes what we consider to be real

3449
02:23:46,230 --> 02:23:44,000
turns out not to be the case later on so

3450
02:23:49,030 --> 02:23:46,240
it's regarded as a pseudoscience we

3451
02:23:51,590 --> 02:23:49,040
understand that and for good reason too

3452
02:23:52,630 --> 02:23:51,600
there is legitimate pockets of solid

3453
02:23:58,309 --> 02:23:52,640
research

3454
02:23:59,990 --> 02:23:58,319
gary voorhees commendable job great

3455
02:24:02,070 --> 02:24:00,000
respect for them i'm going to leave out

3456
02:24:03,830 --> 02:24:02,080
organizations that i'm sorry for doing i

3457
02:24:05,670 --> 02:24:03,840
shouldn't name anybody the society if

3458
02:24:07,910 --> 02:24:05,680
you help me out you ap

3459
02:24:11,590 --> 02:24:07,920
scientific coalition for uap studies at

3460
02:24:15,429 --> 02:24:11,600
johnson is it that group too commendable

3461
02:24:16,550 --> 02:24:15,439
uh there are some very serious uh

3462
02:24:18,710 --> 02:24:16,560
you know not

3463
02:24:20,950 --> 02:24:18,720
i hate to use the term woo-woo and

3464
02:24:23,750 --> 02:24:20,960
because some of that's good too you know

3465
02:24:25,750 --> 02:24:23,760
uh no i love the woo-woo yeah

3466
02:24:28,550 --> 02:24:25,760
i wanted to ask you this bob

3467
02:24:30,230 --> 02:24:28,560
you do need some of that yeah it's

3468
02:24:30,950 --> 02:24:30,240
better than tv

3469
02:24:33,349 --> 02:24:30,960
well

3470
02:24:34,950 --> 02:24:33,359
the media's been covering this we all

3471
02:24:37,349 --> 02:24:34,960
know about that in the news and the

3472
02:24:39,910 --> 02:24:37,359
senate the uap task force and reports

3473
02:24:43,349 --> 02:24:39,920
and all of that and and that's great

3474
02:24:45,110 --> 02:24:43,359
but uh a couple of days ago i caught uh

3475
02:24:49,349 --> 02:24:45,120
dave chappelle's

3476
02:24:51,110 --> 02:24:49,359
uh new special on netflix and very funny

3477
02:24:52,710 --> 02:24:51,120
by the way anyway

3478
02:24:55,110 --> 02:24:52,720
dave chappelle

3479
02:24:56,870 --> 02:24:55,120
in the middle of his

3480
02:25:00,790 --> 02:24:56,880
stand up

3481
02:25:02,870 --> 02:25:00,800
says that uh he was quarantined uh uh

3482
02:25:04,710 --> 02:25:02,880
for a couple of weeks because of covet

3483
02:25:06,630 --> 02:25:04,720
but this is what he says he says during

3484
02:25:09,110 --> 02:25:06,640
the quarantine you know what i did

3485
02:25:10,950 --> 02:25:09,120
i watched ufo videos

3486
02:25:13,750 --> 02:25:10,960
and i was like what this is dave

3487
02:25:16,630 --> 02:25:13,760
chappelle on netflix and he goes ufos

3488
02:25:19,429 --> 02:25:16,640
are here man they're real and i was just

3489
02:25:21,429 --> 02:25:19,439
what and and i thought to myself we've

3490
02:25:22,630 --> 02:25:21,439
definitely cried this is like the

3491
02:25:25,190 --> 02:25:22,640
rubicon

3492
02:25:26,710 --> 02:25:25,200
right this this is it we've crossed the

3493
02:25:28,790 --> 02:25:26,720
line where

3494
02:25:31,510 --> 02:25:28,800
it's okay to have tucker carlson but

3495
02:25:33,670 --> 02:25:31,520
when you have you know dave chappelle on

3496
02:25:35,590 --> 02:25:33,680
a netflix special saying he's reaching

3497
02:25:37,270 --> 02:25:35,600
out to a whole you know what it's like

3498
02:25:40,150 --> 02:25:37,280
yeah yeah very good point you know what

3499
02:25:41,990 --> 02:25:40,160
it reminds me of in a raging bull market

3500
02:25:44,790 --> 02:25:42,000
when when they're talking nothing but uh

3501
02:25:45,910 --> 02:25:44,800
buying xyz stock at a at a party you

3502
02:25:47,990 --> 02:25:45,920
know uh

3503
02:25:50,950 --> 02:25:48,000
at the ritz carlton

3504
02:25:53,510 --> 02:25:50,960
you know uh everybody jumps on board you

3505
02:25:55,830 --> 02:25:53,520
know everybody wants in and and that's

3506
02:25:57,750 --> 02:25:55,840
and that's when you get out

3507
02:26:00,230 --> 02:25:57,760
you know what i mean

3508
02:26:02,950 --> 02:26:00,240
so i wouldn't listen to dave chappelle

3509
02:26:03,990 --> 02:26:02,960
stick to the jokes uh yeah it was great

3510
02:26:07,030 --> 02:26:04,000
though

3511
02:26:09,510 --> 02:26:07,040
and it's uh and and for me

3512
02:26:12,870 --> 02:26:09,520
it seems that uh

3513
02:26:14,870 --> 02:26:12,880
uh when you when you get into the real

3514
02:26:15,590 --> 02:26:14,880
popular culture when you're into real

3515
02:26:18,389 --> 02:26:15,600
pop

3516
02:26:20,309 --> 02:26:18,399
our our community is safe we can talk

3517
02:26:22,790 --> 02:26:20,319
about this all day long i can speak

3518
02:26:24,870 --> 02:26:22,800
about this with you all day long but

3519
02:26:27,590 --> 02:26:24,880
when it ventures out

3520
02:26:29,990 --> 02:26:27,600
onto a netflix special

3521
02:26:32,469 --> 02:26:30,000
you know reaching around the world

3522
02:26:35,510 --> 02:26:32,479
something is going on bob well here

3523
02:26:37,990 --> 02:26:35,520
again uh

3524
02:26:41,270 --> 02:26:38,000
there are some obviously very fine video

3525
02:26:42,469 --> 02:26:41,280
uh videos documentaries films of course

3526
02:26:45,110 --> 02:26:42,479
uh

3527
02:26:48,469 --> 02:26:45,120
there are just the opposite ones too

3528
02:26:50,389 --> 02:26:48,479
uh as well intentioned as they may be

3529
02:26:52,309 --> 02:26:50,399
we you know

3530
02:26:53,590 --> 02:26:52,319
there's meaning in everyone everything

3531
02:26:55,429 --> 02:26:53,600
that's done

3532
02:26:57,190 --> 02:26:55,439
something positive some negative we we

3533
02:26:58,870 --> 02:26:57,200
hope to make one

3534
02:27:00,790 --> 02:26:58,880
great film

3535
02:27:03,670 --> 02:27:00,800
that reaches

3536
02:27:05,190 --> 02:27:03,680
that has a resident bond let's say with

3537
02:27:08,710 --> 02:27:05,200
a lot of people

3538
02:27:10,710 --> 02:27:08,720
and but we need help and we want to uh

3539
02:27:13,030 --> 02:27:10,720
thank you very much for what you've done

3540
02:27:16,630 --> 02:27:13,040
to help support us and have me on this

3541
02:27:20,550 --> 02:27:16,640
platform and uh to share my thoughts uh

3542
02:27:23,110 --> 02:27:20,560
about what we attempt to accomplish but

3543
02:27:24,070 --> 02:27:23,120
that's the point you do it other people

3544
02:27:26,950 --> 02:27:24,080
too

3545
02:27:29,910 --> 02:27:26,960
by discussing it uh the woo-woo and and

3546
02:27:32,550 --> 02:27:29,920
likewise uh there's truth in woo-woo and

3547
02:27:34,710 --> 02:27:32,560
sometimes it's glamorized to some extent

3548
02:27:37,110 --> 02:27:34,720
the media eyes whatever you want to call

3549
02:27:39,270 --> 02:27:37,120
it and that's fine that's wonderful as

3550
02:27:41,190 --> 02:27:39,280
long as it helps to wake people up and

3551
02:27:43,270 --> 02:27:41,200
not mislead them down down the wrong

3552
02:27:44,710 --> 02:27:43,280
path for whatever reason

3553
02:27:45,830 --> 02:27:44,720
be objective

3554
02:27:48,950 --> 02:27:45,840
um

3555
02:27:51,510 --> 02:27:48,960
and and don't ignore please the the

3556
02:27:53,670 --> 02:27:51,520
physical and non-physical aspects of of

3557
02:27:56,309 --> 02:27:53,680
reality because i think we do see

3558
02:27:59,830 --> 02:27:56,319
evidence of that all over the fabric of

3559
02:28:01,429 --> 02:27:59,840
our universe is certainly both

3560
02:28:03,910 --> 02:28:01,439
thank you so much bob and i want

3561
02:28:04,990 --> 02:28:03,920
everybody i've got the links up

3562
02:28:08,230 --> 02:28:05,000
uh for

3563
02:28:11,349 --> 02:28:08,240
bobdavisspeaks.com and just scroll down

3564
02:28:14,630 --> 02:28:11,359
on on the whole page right uh it's right

3565
02:28:15,590 --> 02:28:14,640
there is the consciousness uh connection

3566
02:28:18,710 --> 02:28:15,600
trailer

3567
02:28:19,510 --> 02:28:18,720
uh check that out and then right below

3568
02:28:21,030 --> 02:28:19,520
that

3569
02:28:22,710 --> 02:28:21,040
is the uh

3570
02:28:25,030 --> 02:28:22,720
the consciousness connection film

3571
02:28:27,670 --> 02:28:25,040
gofundme it's right there on his

3572
02:28:29,990 --> 02:28:27,680
homepage bob thank you so much and and i

3573
02:28:31,750 --> 02:28:30,000
realized this past your bedtime what a

3574
02:28:33,910 --> 02:28:31,760
great conversation tonight and i can't

3575
02:28:34,790 --> 02:28:33,920
wait to have you back on thank you so

3576
02:28:39,190 --> 02:28:34,800
much

3577
02:28:40,870 --> 02:28:39,200
give my best to mr beatty you're going

3578
02:28:42,389 --> 02:28:40,880
to be talking to him shortly thank you

3579
02:28:43,750 --> 02:28:42,399
so much bob

3580
02:28:44,950 --> 02:28:43,760
thank you have a great have a great

3581
02:28:47,750 --> 02:28:44,960
night

3582
02:28:49,190 --> 02:28:47,760
bye this is fade to black i am your host

3583
02:28:52,510 --> 02:28:49,200
jimmy church i'm going to take a quick

3584
02:28:54,590 --> 02:28:52,520
break right here the website is

3585
02:28:56,469 --> 02:28:54,600
bobdavisspeaks.com the links are over at

3586
02:28:58,710 --> 02:28:56,479
jimmychurchradio.com and throughout all

3587
02:29:00,389 --> 02:28:58,720
of our social media channels

3588
02:29:01,750 --> 02:29:00,399
i'm mural jimmy church this is fade to

3589
02:29:04,680 --> 02:29:01,760
block i'm going to take a quick break

3590
02:29:15,429 --> 02:29:04,690
and i'll be right back stay with us

3591
02:29:16,560 --> 02:29:15,439
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3593
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3594
02:29:36,230 --> 02:29:33,359
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3595
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3596
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it's not a lifestyle we chose we were

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[Music]

3653
02:33:07,910 --> 02:33:04,399
welcome back paid to black i am your

3654
02:33:14,150 --> 02:33:10,309
that was a conversation right there dr

3655
02:33:17,270 --> 02:33:14,160
bob davis and uh i can't

3656
02:33:19,429 --> 02:33:17,280
i can't express enough how how awesome

3657
02:33:20,630 --> 02:33:19,439
that was that was just perfect that was

3658
02:33:23,590 --> 02:33:20,640
a perfect

3659
02:33:25,349 --> 02:33:23,600
uh oh uh christina says chop chop do i

3660
02:33:27,830 --> 02:33:25,359
need to chop somebody

3661
02:33:30,870 --> 02:33:27,840
do i need to drop some money

3662
02:33:32,830 --> 02:33:30,880
christina gomez shows the axe

3663
02:33:39,030 --> 02:33:32,840
oh

3664
02:33:41,510 --> 02:33:39,040
christina gomez

3665
02:33:43,670 --> 02:33:41,520
shows the axe yeah christina go ahead

3666
02:33:45,590 --> 02:33:43,680
you have my permission i don't know what

3667
02:33:46,389 --> 02:33:45,600
where which direction you're swinging

3668
02:33:48,710 --> 02:33:46,399
that

3669
02:33:49,750 --> 02:33:48,720
but uh just go ahead you've got mine

3670
02:33:51,349 --> 02:33:49,760
permission

3671
02:33:55,830 --> 02:33:51,359
whatever

3672
02:33:59,990 --> 02:33:57,910
oh man uh

3673
02:34:01,510 --> 02:34:00,000
so much to unpack uh from that

3674
02:34:02,469 --> 02:34:01,520
conversation

3675
02:34:03,349 --> 02:34:02,479
and

3676
02:34:06,230 --> 02:34:03,359
uh

3677
02:34:07,030 --> 02:34:06,240
you know the thing is um

3678
02:34:09,990 --> 02:34:07,040
and

3679
02:34:14,150 --> 02:34:10,000
tonight

3680
02:34:18,389 --> 02:34:14,160
uh but but it's it's the truth

3681
02:34:21,270 --> 02:34:18,399
science needs to get this figured out

3682
02:34:22,389 --> 02:34:21,280
they need to stop with um

3683
02:34:22,630 --> 02:34:22,399
uh

3684
02:34:23,750 --> 02:34:22,640
the

3685
02:34:26,710 --> 02:34:23,760
[Music]

3686
02:34:29,590 --> 02:34:26,720
the hesita the hesitancy

3687
02:34:31,910 --> 02:34:29,600
of of discussing consciousness

3688
02:34:32,870 --> 02:34:31,920
and and that's that's

3689
02:34:34,950 --> 02:34:32,880
you know

3690
02:34:37,030 --> 02:34:34,960
in our reality

3691
02:34:40,870 --> 02:34:37,040
you got to stop with that how many times

3692
02:34:42,150 --> 02:34:40,880
on the show have i said hey you know uh

3693
02:34:44,710 --> 02:34:42,160
uh

3694
02:34:47,750 --> 02:34:44,720
if you are a physicist

3695
02:34:50,550 --> 02:34:47,760
and you want to uh talk to me about

3696
02:34:52,230 --> 02:34:50,560
uh multi-world multiverse uh

3697
02:34:54,230 --> 02:34:52,240
parallel worlds

3698
02:34:57,110 --> 02:34:54,240
um entanglement

3699
02:34:58,630 --> 02:34:57,120
um the slit experiment

3700
02:35:00,469 --> 02:34:58,640
you want to discuss

3701
02:35:02,230 --> 02:35:00,479
extra dimensions

3702
02:35:03,910 --> 02:35:02,240
you want to

3703
02:35:06,469 --> 02:35:03,920
you want me to be

3704
02:35:08,790 --> 02:35:06,479
on board with all of that and i get the

3705
02:35:10,550 --> 02:35:08,800
reasons why

3706
02:35:12,750 --> 02:35:10,560
and you don't want to talk about

3707
02:35:15,349 --> 02:35:12,760
consciousness right where they

3708
02:35:16,469 --> 02:35:15,359
immediately i can't tell you how many

3709
02:35:19,190 --> 02:35:16,479
times

3710
02:35:21,030 --> 02:35:19,200
i have heard uh

3711
02:35:23,190 --> 02:35:21,040
a physicist especially with an

3712
02:35:25,110 --> 02:35:23,200
interviewer where the conversation's

3713
02:35:27,349 --> 02:35:25,120
going where it's going and it's going

3714
02:35:30,070 --> 02:35:27,359
right towards consciousness

3715
02:35:31,030 --> 02:35:30,080
it's going right there it's going right

3716
02:35:31,990 --> 02:35:31,040
woo

3717
02:35:33,670 --> 02:35:32,000
and

3718
02:35:35,830 --> 02:35:33,680
the interviewer is going to do the right

3719
02:35:36,710 --> 02:35:35,840
thing and and bring it up

3720
02:35:40,389 --> 02:35:36,720
and

3721
02:35:42,790 --> 02:35:40,399
the immediate shutdown that happens it's

3722
02:35:45,110 --> 02:35:42,800
fascinating to me it's so predictable

3723
02:35:47,270 --> 02:35:45,120
you can hear it coming

3724
02:35:49,990 --> 02:35:47,280
a mile away you can

3725
02:35:51,990 --> 02:35:50,000
feel and it's just right there

3726
02:35:55,190 --> 02:35:52,000
it's it's amazing to me it's just like

3727
02:35:56,070 --> 02:35:55,200
just just stop we need to just

3728
02:35:58,150 --> 02:35:56,080
uh

3729
02:36:00,309 --> 02:35:58,160
start examining this

3730
02:36:07,270 --> 02:36:00,319
um and and so there you go all right

3731
02:36:10,950 --> 02:36:08,630
five 747-228-2051-747-228251

3732
02:36:12,870 --> 02:36:10,960
um

3733
02:36:14,309 --> 02:36:12,880
i can't

3734
02:36:15,990 --> 02:36:14,319
uh

3735
02:36:42,950 --> 02:36:16,000
i

3736
02:36:45,590 --> 02:36:42,960
of how

3737
02:36:47,990 --> 02:36:45,600
um i'm just going to use the creation

3738
02:36:50,550 --> 02:36:48,000
the creation of stars creation of the

3739
02:36:54,870 --> 02:36:52,950
i'm not even getting to us

3740
02:36:57,110 --> 02:36:54,880
but the magic

3741
02:37:00,230 --> 02:36:57,120
that is involved

3742
02:37:02,630 --> 02:37:00,240
for a bunch of gases

3743
02:37:05,110 --> 02:37:02,640
to just combine

3744
02:37:09,349 --> 02:37:05,120
gravity takes over

3745
02:37:12,150 --> 02:37:09,359
and a star is created

3746
02:37:14,550 --> 02:37:12,160
that to me is the most fascinating and

3747
02:37:16,950 --> 02:37:14,560
and and that isn't

3748
02:37:19,590 --> 02:37:16,960
i think it's by design

3749
02:37:22,070 --> 02:37:19,600
i i just i just do there isn't another

3750
02:37:24,870 --> 02:37:22,080
way to explain any of that

3751
02:37:27,510 --> 02:37:24,880
fascinated with it and so as i listened

3752
02:37:29,030 --> 02:37:27,520
to these explanations of which i i

3753
02:37:30,710 --> 02:37:29,040
listened to them all

3754
02:37:33,270 --> 02:37:30,720
of uh

3755
02:37:37,349 --> 02:37:33,280
you know of course a big bang but

3756
02:37:39,030 --> 02:37:37,359
um the creation of uh planetary systems

3757
02:37:41,590 --> 02:37:39,040
and star systems and

3758
02:37:43,590 --> 02:37:41,600
and and planets and that and

3759
02:37:44,790 --> 02:37:43,600
you listen to the explanations and

3760
02:37:47,510 --> 02:37:44,800
nobody's

3761
02:37:49,349 --> 02:37:47,520
on the same page by the way nobody

3762
02:37:53,349 --> 02:37:49,359
but you listen to this over and over

3763
02:37:55,750 --> 02:37:53,359
again and you you you walk away from it

3764
02:37:56,950 --> 02:37:55,760
going that's not by chance

3765
02:38:01,670 --> 02:37:56,960
it's not

3766
02:38:03,830 --> 02:38:01,680
it simply can't be and

3767
02:38:05,670 --> 02:38:03,840
all the way down all the way through the

3768
02:38:08,150 --> 02:38:05,680
chain of events

3769
02:38:09,830 --> 02:38:08,160
the magic of what is going on and then

3770
02:38:11,110 --> 02:38:09,840
we just get to the simple question of

3771
02:38:13,110 --> 02:38:11,120
dna

3772
02:38:16,630 --> 02:38:13,120
and and consciousness

3773
02:38:19,510 --> 02:38:16,640
you know how did we get to this point

3774
02:38:21,270 --> 02:38:19,520
where particles combine

3775
02:38:23,030 --> 02:38:21,280
perfectly

3776
02:38:25,510 --> 02:38:23,040
into

3777
02:38:30,230 --> 02:38:25,520
dna

3778
02:38:34,950 --> 02:38:32,309
there is something going on there is

3779
02:38:42,550 --> 02:38:34,960
something going on um now uh

3780
02:38:46,309 --> 02:38:45,349
and uh i wanted to share

3781
02:38:47,750 --> 02:38:46,319
um

3782
02:38:49,750 --> 02:38:47,760
uh

3783
02:38:52,469 --> 02:38:49,760
something with everybody and

3784
02:38:54,830 --> 02:38:52,479
and a few weeks ago

3785
02:38:58,469 --> 02:38:54,840
uh we got into a crystal

3786
02:38:59,750 --> 02:38:58,479
conversation crystals on the show

3787
02:39:01,590 --> 02:38:59,760
and

3788
02:39:03,990 --> 02:39:01,600
uh

3789
02:39:06,150 --> 02:39:04,000
before i go here before i go there that

3790
02:39:08,150 --> 02:39:06,160
part of it doesn't really matter but

3791
02:39:10,790 --> 02:39:08,160
but tri-scale

3792
02:39:11,830 --> 02:39:10,800
uh reached out and and said jimmy take

3793
02:39:14,950 --> 02:39:11,840
your pick

3794
02:39:17,590 --> 02:39:14,960
and uh your birthday's coming up and

3795
02:39:19,429 --> 02:39:17,600
uh i would like to gift you uh one of

3796
02:39:22,070 --> 02:39:19,439
these skulls

3797
02:39:23,190 --> 02:39:22,080
and and i did i picked out the cool one

3798
02:39:24,550 --> 02:39:23,200
well

3799
02:39:26,710 --> 02:39:24,560
um

3800
02:39:29,830 --> 02:39:26,720
tri-scale

3801
02:39:36,469 --> 02:39:33,030
and this was the skull that i picked out

3802
02:39:41,270 --> 02:39:39,510
thank you triscale

3803
02:39:43,670 --> 02:39:41,280
look at this

3804
02:39:47,429 --> 02:39:43,680
gem

3805
02:39:51,590 --> 02:39:48,630
and uh

3806
02:39:53,190 --> 02:39:51,600
i mean i i i couldn't believe it

3807
02:39:55,270 --> 02:39:53,200
and uh

3808
02:39:55,990 --> 02:39:55,280
sitting here in the bunker now

3809
02:39:58,230 --> 02:39:56,000
but

3810
02:40:01,270 --> 02:39:58,240
just absolutely incredible

3811
02:40:02,630 --> 02:40:01,280
now as if that wasn't enough

3812
02:40:04,630 --> 02:40:02,640
thank you triscale i know you're

3813
02:40:08,070 --> 02:40:04,640
listening and and maybe even watching

3814
02:40:15,590 --> 02:40:11,510
but that's just where it starts

3815
02:40:22,790 --> 02:40:17,990
this

3816
02:40:25,110 --> 02:40:22,800
incredible

3817
02:40:28,469 --> 02:40:25,120
lisa frith is uh

3818
02:40:31,510 --> 02:40:28,479
sitting next to me as i'm opening gifts

3819
02:40:37,110 --> 02:40:34,790
i don't think anybody knows skulls

3820
02:40:39,269 --> 02:40:37,120
and crystals better than uh lisa frith

3821
02:40:40,070 --> 02:40:39,279
carolyn ford is up there and and so

3822
02:40:43,349 --> 02:40:40,080
forth

3823
02:40:47,830 --> 02:40:43,359
lisa just absolutely

3824
02:40:51,590 --> 02:40:47,840
lost her mind but look at this i mean

3825
02:40:54,469 --> 02:40:51,600
insanely beautiful thank you try scale

3826
02:40:57,670 --> 02:40:54,479
but it doesn't end there

3827
02:41:03,750 --> 02:40:57,680
all right i i just have to give props

3828
02:41:03,760 --> 02:41:07,510
look at that obsidian

3829
02:41:07,520 --> 02:41:11,830
i mean perfect

3830
02:41:15,110 --> 02:41:13,670
these skulls are flawless

3831
02:41:18,150 --> 02:41:15,120
but look at that

3832
02:41:21,110 --> 02:41:18,160
in that incredible thank you try scale

3833
02:41:23,190 --> 02:41:21,120
just unreal

3834
02:41:25,670 --> 02:41:23,200
gorgeous

3835
02:41:27,990 --> 02:41:25,680
but it doesn't end there

3836
02:41:32,950 --> 02:41:30,710
because also in my

3837
02:41:34,550 --> 02:41:32,960
my birthday box

3838
02:41:36,150 --> 02:41:34,560
from tri-scale

3839
02:41:41,910 --> 02:41:36,160
a man is heavy

3840
02:41:46,550 --> 02:41:44,950
and uh

3841
02:41:49,110 --> 02:41:46,560
i i can't

3842
02:41:53,910 --> 02:41:49,120
to see this in person

3843
02:41:59,269 --> 02:41:55,510
look at that

3844
02:41:59,279 --> 02:42:02,389
tri-scale

3845
02:42:07,030 --> 02:42:04,150
look at that

3846
02:42:09,670 --> 02:42:07,040
happy birthday to me thank you triscale

3847
02:42:11,429 --> 02:42:09,680
green quartz

3848
02:42:14,309 --> 02:42:11,439
and uh

3849
02:42:17,830 --> 02:42:14,319
there's some magic here

3850
02:42:19,590 --> 02:42:17,840
there's some magic so don't

3851
02:42:21,910 --> 02:42:19,600
don't anybody out there tell me that the

3852
02:42:23,910 --> 02:42:21,920
universe isn't

3853
02:42:27,190 --> 02:42:23,920
look at that

3854
02:42:29,349 --> 02:42:27,200
tri-scale thank you so much and uh

3855
02:42:30,950 --> 02:42:29,359
try scale been in the chat tonight i

3856
02:42:32,469 --> 02:42:30,960
hope so

3857
02:42:34,309 --> 02:42:32,479
oh there you are they're

3858
02:42:35,910 --> 02:42:34,319
glad you like them jimmy i just wanted

3859
02:42:38,070 --> 02:42:35,920
to say thanks for all the years of hard

3860
02:42:41,590 --> 02:42:38,080
work that goes into every one of your

3861
02:42:43,110 --> 02:42:41,600
shows cheers man no thank you thank you

3862
02:42:45,269 --> 02:42:43,120
looks just

3863
02:42:52,950 --> 02:42:45,279
incredible

3864
02:42:56,710 --> 02:42:54,070
one seven four seven 747-228-2051-7470

3865
02:42:58,230 --> 02:42:56,720
two eight two zero five one um earlier

3866
02:43:01,190 --> 02:42:58,240
in the show

3867
02:43:03,269 --> 02:43:01,200
um i was talking about time and how i'm

3868
02:43:05,670 --> 02:43:03,279
trying to

3869
02:43:07,110 --> 02:43:05,680
uh slow time down

3870
02:43:11,269 --> 02:43:07,120
and

3871
02:43:13,590 --> 02:43:11,279
uh

3872
02:43:14,710 --> 02:43:13,600
i don't have a study guide i don't have

3873
02:43:22,550 --> 02:43:14,720
uh

3874
02:43:23,590 --> 02:43:22,560
journey on my own trying to figure this

3875
02:43:24,710 --> 02:43:23,600
out

3876
02:43:26,550 --> 02:43:24,720
because

3877
02:43:29,110 --> 02:43:26,560
um

3878
02:43:31,349 --> 02:43:29,120
i was watching uh this was a couple of

3879
02:43:34,870 --> 02:43:31,359
weeks ago

3880
02:43:38,309 --> 02:43:34,880
um and and i go through this um once in

3881
02:43:40,710 --> 02:43:38,319
a while but uh i'm fascinated with time

3882
02:43:42,630 --> 02:43:40,720
and when you get into so i was watching

3883
02:43:44,630 --> 02:43:42,640
one of the great courses and i'm

3884
02:43:46,309 --> 02:43:44,640
subscribed to that and

3885
02:43:48,950 --> 02:43:46,319
the you know when you get into the great

3886
02:43:53,830 --> 02:43:48,960
courses those uh some of those courses

3887
02:43:55,110 --> 02:43:53,840
are uh 24 uh segments long hour two

3888
02:43:57,269 --> 02:43:55,120
hours each

3889
02:43:59,110 --> 02:43:57,279
a huge investment into there but these

3890
02:44:00,230 --> 02:43:59,120
professors are just

3891
02:44:01,030 --> 02:44:00,240
bringing it

3892
02:44:02,309 --> 02:44:01,040
and

3893
02:44:04,389 --> 02:44:02,319
so i was

3894
02:44:06,950 --> 02:44:04,399
in in in the middle of one of those

3895
02:44:08,550 --> 02:44:06,960
discussing time and i watched a couple

3896
02:44:10,870 --> 02:44:08,560
of documentaries

3897
02:44:14,870 --> 02:44:10,880
and one of the

3898
02:44:19,590 --> 02:44:14,880
things that started to recur

3899
02:44:21,190 --> 02:44:19,600
um over the last month or so was how

3900
02:44:22,469 --> 02:44:21,200
uh

3901
02:44:24,150 --> 02:44:22,479
time

3902
02:44:26,150 --> 02:44:24,160
no it's not only different between

3903
02:44:28,070 --> 02:44:26,160
individuals but how

3904
02:44:30,389 --> 02:44:28,080
it seems to

3905
02:44:31,349 --> 02:44:30,399
slow down and speed up

3906
02:44:37,110 --> 02:44:31,359
and

3907
02:44:37,910 --> 02:44:37,120
about this we all

3908
02:44:40,550 --> 02:44:37,920
that

3909
02:44:43,429 --> 02:44:40,560
time is slower

3910
02:44:44,150 --> 02:44:43,439
right it takes forever

3911
02:44:47,670 --> 02:44:44,160
to

3912
02:44:49,110 --> 02:44:47,680
you know a year you know between

3913
02:44:51,990 --> 02:44:49,120
between

3914
02:44:55,990 --> 02:44:52,000
uh the day after christmas

3915
02:44:58,710 --> 02:44:56,000
and christmas eve that year

3916
02:45:02,630 --> 02:44:58,720
i mean it's it's forever

3917
02:45:03,670 --> 02:45:02,640
right and then as as life moves along

3918
02:45:05,910 --> 02:45:03,680
now

3919
02:45:07,269 --> 02:45:05,920
the space between christmas and

3920
02:45:10,070 --> 02:45:07,279
christmas

3921
02:45:11,349 --> 02:45:10,080
is is instantaneous now

3922
02:45:13,349 --> 02:45:11,359
right where

3923
02:45:15,190 --> 02:45:13,359
we don't we've

3924
02:45:20,790 --> 02:45:15,200
we've

3925
02:45:22,070 --> 02:45:20,800
and there is no explanation to it so i

3926
02:45:25,190 --> 02:45:22,080
am

3927
02:45:27,590 --> 02:45:25,200
trying to in my own way

3928
02:45:29,990 --> 02:45:27,600
trying to slow it back down

3929
02:45:32,070 --> 02:45:30,000
how do we slow it back down how do we

3930
02:45:34,550 --> 02:45:32,080
get to

3931
02:45:37,269 --> 02:45:34,560
things are just taking forever

3932
02:45:39,269 --> 02:45:37,279
all right it's taking forever i i need

3933
02:45:41,830 --> 02:45:39,279
that feeling back

3934
02:45:44,070 --> 02:45:41,840
so how do we get to it well there was a

3935
02:45:47,990 --> 02:45:44,080
study

3936
02:45:54,830 --> 02:45:51,670
and it was released about six months ago

3937
02:45:57,990 --> 02:45:54,840
with people on lockdown in the united

3938
02:45:58,790 --> 02:45:58,000
kingdom uh because of the pandemic

3939
02:46:07,590 --> 02:45:58,800
that

3940
02:46:10,870 --> 02:46:07,600
slow down

3941
02:46:14,469 --> 02:46:10,880
the days were taking too long

3942
02:46:16,230 --> 02:46:14,479
and and i thought wait a minute here

3943
02:46:18,870 --> 02:46:16,240
they're on to something

3944
02:46:20,630 --> 02:46:18,880
right so i'm i'm reading the survey and

3945
02:46:21,750 --> 02:46:20,640
i'm glad that other

3946
02:46:25,190 --> 02:46:21,760
uh

3947
02:46:27,030 --> 02:46:25,200
not only researchers but individuals

3948
02:46:28,550 --> 02:46:27,040
are concerned about this and are

3949
02:46:32,309 --> 02:46:28,560
speaking about it

3950
02:46:35,510 --> 02:46:32,319
but here's here's the rub

3951
02:46:37,510 --> 02:46:35,520
it didn't slow down for me

3952
02:46:40,389 --> 02:46:37,520
i thought that

3953
02:46:42,469 --> 02:46:40,399
this is the crazy thing

3954
02:46:43,990 --> 02:46:42,479
and this is what i would like to talk to

3955
02:46:46,950 --> 02:46:44,000
all of you about we can certainly come

3956
02:46:48,870 --> 02:46:46,960
back and and visit this on on fader

3957
02:46:52,469 --> 02:46:48,880
night

3958
02:46:59,750 --> 02:46:55,429
didn't exist

3959
02:47:03,510 --> 02:47:01,670
blew by

3960
02:47:05,830 --> 02:47:03,520
and like

3961
02:47:10,150 --> 02:47:05,840
i almost don't remember a whole lot of

3962
02:47:11,590 --> 02:47:10,160
2020 because it flew by so fast so how

3963
02:47:16,389 --> 02:47:11,600
can

3964
02:47:17,269 --> 02:47:16,399
uh for me

3965
02:47:18,389 --> 02:47:17,279
than

3966
02:47:22,870 --> 02:47:18,399
the

3967
02:47:26,550 --> 02:47:22,880
a thousand people

3968
02:47:29,269 --> 02:47:26,560
that that said that 2020 just dragged on

3969
02:47:32,469 --> 02:47:29,279
forever it didn't for me

3970
02:47:35,190 --> 02:47:32,479
it didn't and 2021 um

3971
02:47:37,030 --> 02:47:35,200
uh has been a little bit better

3972
02:47:38,389 --> 02:47:37,040
uh because i've changed my focus on

3973
02:47:42,710 --> 02:47:38,399
things and

3974
02:47:45,190 --> 02:47:42,720
trying to be productive and and and

3975
02:47:47,830 --> 02:47:45,200
trying to just do things all day long

3976
02:47:48,630 --> 02:47:47,840
that's those are my choices but it seems

3977
02:47:51,910 --> 02:47:48,640
like

3978
02:47:55,030 --> 02:47:51,920
i've kind of slowed things down somewhat

3979
02:47:56,790 --> 02:47:55,040
but how could my experience of 2020 be

3980
02:47:59,429 --> 02:47:56,800
the opposite

3981
02:48:02,309 --> 02:47:59,439
of so many others

3982
02:48:04,230 --> 02:48:02,319
2020 to me

3983
02:48:07,429 --> 02:48:04,240
went by in a blink i don't even it's

3984
02:48:09,830 --> 02:48:07,439
like the year that didn't exist

3985
02:48:11,590 --> 02:48:09,840
and that's how fast it went by for me

3986
02:48:13,030 --> 02:48:11,600
and i've been thinking about this more

3987
02:48:16,630 --> 02:48:13,040
and more and

3988
02:48:18,870 --> 02:48:16,640
and getting into the reality of time

3989
02:48:22,469 --> 02:48:18,880
and and what it means now

3990
02:48:24,070 --> 02:48:22,479
so uh staying on this

3991
02:48:25,349 --> 02:48:24,080
the way that uh

3992
02:48:27,429 --> 02:48:25,359
um

3993
02:48:29,670 --> 02:48:27,439
uh einstein

3994
02:48:31,830 --> 02:48:29,680
uh approached this and

3995
02:48:33,590 --> 02:48:31,840
which is space time and if i hear space

3996
02:48:36,230 --> 02:48:33,600
time one more time

3997
02:48:38,590 --> 02:48:36,240
uh i just said time three times in in

3998
02:48:42,389 --> 02:48:38,600
ten seconds

3999
02:48:43,990 --> 02:48:42,399
space time and and so physicists and and

4000
02:48:45,429 --> 02:48:44,000
science and researchers will bring up

4001
02:48:46,309 --> 02:48:45,439
space time

4002
02:48:52,070 --> 02:48:46,319
and

4003
02:48:53,269 --> 02:48:52,080
uh the added we have three dimensions

4004
02:48:55,990 --> 02:48:53,279
right and

4005
02:48:58,070 --> 02:48:56,000
uh length with height and then adding

4006
02:48:59,349 --> 02:48:58,080
time into it and then the fabric of

4007
02:49:01,830 --> 02:48:59,359
space and then

4008
02:49:03,110 --> 02:49:01,840
and einstein created space time i'm not

4009
02:49:04,070 --> 02:49:03,120
all into that

4010
02:49:07,110 --> 02:49:04,080
and

4011
02:49:07,990 --> 02:49:07,120
where um these physicists start to talk

4012
02:49:09,349 --> 02:49:08,000
about

4013
02:49:10,230 --> 02:49:09,359
um

4014
02:49:16,710 --> 02:49:10,240
now

4015
02:49:16,720 --> 02:49:19,830
the past

4016
02:49:25,269 --> 02:49:21,910
not only did it just happen

4017
02:49:27,910 --> 02:49:25,279
but it's right but it's so close

4018
02:49:28,790 --> 02:49:27,920
but we can't go back to it it's right

4019
02:49:30,710 --> 02:49:28,800
here

4020
02:49:33,190 --> 02:49:30,720
the words that i'm speaking right

4021
02:49:34,230 --> 02:49:33,200
they're right here but now they're gone

4022
02:49:43,670 --> 02:49:34,240
and

4023
02:49:45,269 --> 02:49:43,680
traveling to the future

4024
02:49:47,269 --> 02:49:45,279
is easy

4025
02:49:49,269 --> 02:49:47,279
it is

4026
02:49:54,309 --> 02:49:49,279
not only is it theoretically possible

4027
02:49:56,150 --> 02:49:54,319
but we do do it we do it right now

4028
02:49:59,590 --> 02:49:56,160
that being said

4029
02:50:02,070 --> 02:49:59,600
going to the past

4030
02:50:04,630 --> 02:50:02,080
is not it's not easy and it may be

4031
02:50:08,230 --> 02:50:04,640
impossible but yet

4032
02:50:10,550 --> 02:50:08,240
einstein with space-time

4033
02:50:12,389 --> 02:50:10,560
says that it's all relative and

4034
02:50:13,670 --> 02:50:12,399
especially out there in space it's all

4035
02:50:14,469 --> 02:50:13,680
the same

4036
02:50:16,630 --> 02:50:14,479
and

4037
02:50:18,070 --> 02:50:16,640
which not only am i speaking about this

4038
02:50:21,110 --> 02:50:18,080
now but

4039
02:50:24,950 --> 02:50:21,120
bob davis brought this up earlier

4040
02:50:29,429 --> 02:50:26,950
in a near-death experience

4041
02:50:31,269 --> 02:50:29,439
when somebody some some obe some

4042
02:50:34,790 --> 02:50:31,279
near-death experience

4043
02:50:37,429 --> 02:50:34,800
where uh there is no there is no time

4044
02:50:39,429 --> 02:50:37,439
right the past present and future is the

4045
02:50:42,710 --> 02:50:39,439
same thing

4046
02:50:44,309 --> 02:50:42,720
now we need to just stop for a second

4047
02:50:48,550 --> 02:50:44,319
i keep saying

4048
02:50:50,950 --> 02:50:48,560
where science and and and consciousness

4049
02:50:52,630 --> 02:50:50,960
and the woo are starting to collide

4050
02:50:56,309 --> 02:50:52,640
that statement

4051
02:51:01,670 --> 02:50:56,319
from somebody that i have made myself is

4052
02:51:06,230 --> 02:51:03,030
what

4053
02:51:09,110 --> 02:51:06,240
you know and you go to

4054
02:51:11,429 --> 02:51:09,120
uh the mountains in nepal and tibet and

4055
02:51:13,910 --> 02:51:11,439
th this same subject

4056
02:51:15,910 --> 02:51:13,920
is is being spoken about

4057
02:51:18,630 --> 02:51:15,920
that einstein

4058
02:51:20,790 --> 02:51:18,640
and what space time is it's talking

4059
02:51:24,230 --> 02:51:20,800
about it's one in the same thing

4060
02:51:25,910 --> 02:51:24,240
so if that's the case how is it

4061
02:51:27,910 --> 02:51:25,920
that um

4062
02:51:29,349 --> 02:51:27,920
our perception of time could be so

4063
02:51:30,550 --> 02:51:29,359
vastly different

4064
02:51:32,790 --> 02:51:30,560
and how

4065
02:51:33,750 --> 02:51:32,800
uh if you take a watch off of somebody's

4066
02:51:35,910 --> 02:51:33,760
wrist

4067
02:51:38,710 --> 02:51:35,920
and and a cell phone away nobody's got

4068
02:51:40,870 --> 02:51:38,720
uh the concept of time

4069
02:51:43,750 --> 02:51:40,880
staring at them in the face with a

4070
02:51:45,110 --> 02:51:43,760
second hand that's clicking by

4071
02:51:50,550 --> 02:51:45,120
how their

4072
02:51:51,590 --> 02:51:50,560
their uh opinion of how much time has

4073
02:51:53,349 --> 02:51:51,600
passed

4074
02:51:55,190 --> 02:51:53,359
is is so different

4075
02:51:56,870 --> 02:51:55,200
i don't get it

4076
02:52:00,710 --> 02:51:56,880
all i know is

4077
02:52:03,590 --> 02:52:00,720
i'm trying to figure out a way for me

4078
02:52:06,150 --> 02:52:03,600
for my brain to start saying

4079
02:52:08,150 --> 02:52:06,160
life is taking forever everything is

4080
02:52:10,630 --> 02:52:08,160
taking too long

4081
02:52:15,030 --> 02:52:10,640
i want to get back to that point

4082
02:52:17,990 --> 02:52:15,040
and and so this is my concept my concept

4083
02:52:21,510 --> 02:52:18,000
uh with that is

4084
02:52:24,950 --> 02:52:21,520
don't waste time

4085
02:52:29,590 --> 02:52:24,960
don't let

4086
02:52:30,630 --> 02:52:29,600
go to waste

4087
02:52:33,190 --> 02:52:30,640
that's it

4088
02:52:35,590 --> 02:52:33,200
so yes i'm i'm

4089
02:52:38,710 --> 02:52:35,600
i'm sleep deprived i'm getting up as

4090
02:52:41,269 --> 02:52:38,720
early as possible i'm i'm busting

4091
02:52:45,190 --> 02:52:41,279
through with with 18

4092
02:52:46,389 --> 02:52:45,200
to 20 hours a day awake doing things

4093
02:52:48,309 --> 02:52:46,399
that that

4094
02:52:49,190 --> 02:52:48,319
just making the day

4095
02:52:55,110 --> 02:52:49,200
as

4096
02:52:58,950 --> 02:52:55,120
because night time

4097
02:52:58,960 --> 02:53:02,790
what

4098
02:53:07,190 --> 02:53:04,550
oh man

4099
02:53:09,429 --> 02:53:07,200
nighttime is when uh our cells are

4100
02:53:11,429 --> 02:53:09,439
already locked in and are working and i

4101
02:53:13,190 --> 02:53:11,439
was talking about this earlier i'm going

4102
02:53:15,990 --> 02:53:13,200
to tell you guys right now

4103
02:53:17,910 --> 02:53:16,000
that was bizarre um i was getting ready

4104
02:53:22,230 --> 02:53:17,920
to switch over to calls

4105
02:53:23,190 --> 02:53:22,240
and maybe you saw my face change color

4106
02:53:24,790 --> 02:53:23,200
um

4107
02:53:26,309 --> 02:53:24,800
everything just disappeared on this

4108
02:53:28,230 --> 02:53:26,319
screen

4109
02:53:31,429 --> 02:53:28,240
and it went to my desktop i'm not

4110
02:53:31,439 --> 02:53:38,389
so i feel bad for everybody

4111
02:53:45,110 --> 02:53:42,790
oh man all right all right with that

4112
02:53:47,670 --> 02:53:45,120
um now that uh

4113
02:53:50,150 --> 02:53:47,680
my phone system just went down and i was

4114
02:53:51,830 --> 02:53:50,160
getting after that long rant

4115
02:53:53,429 --> 02:53:51,840
i wanted to get back to your thoughts on

4116
02:53:56,550 --> 02:53:53,439
time has

4117
02:53:59,830 --> 02:53:56,560
did did 2020 seem slow to you or did it

4118
02:54:00,870 --> 02:53:59,840
seem fast do you remember 2020 is 2020 a

4119
02:54:02,950 --> 02:54:00,880
year

4120
02:54:06,389 --> 02:54:02,960
um uh not only that you are going to

4121
02:54:08,630 --> 02:54:06,399
remember but let's say if we go to 2025

4122
02:54:10,230 --> 02:54:08,640
and we're sitting around at a table and

4123
02:54:11,429 --> 02:54:10,240
we're talking about things are there

4124
02:54:13,750 --> 02:54:11,439
events

4125
02:54:17,670 --> 02:54:13,760
are there things that you are going to

4126
02:54:21,030 --> 02:54:17,680
recall and remember out of 2020 for me

4127
02:54:23,269 --> 02:54:21,040
it it's it's it's weird it's like 2020

4128
02:54:24,469 --> 02:54:23,279
didn't exist

4129
02:54:26,710 --> 02:54:24,479
and

4130
02:54:27,140 --> 02:54:26,720
i i have gone back

4131
02:54:28,389 --> 02:54:27,150
um

4132
02:54:30,230 --> 02:54:28,399
[Music]

4133
02:54:31,670 --> 02:54:30,240
this has got to be a chapter in my book

4134
02:54:34,469 --> 02:54:31,680
it has to be

4135
02:54:36,150 --> 02:54:34,479
um i have gone back and caught myself in

4136
02:54:37,830 --> 02:54:36,160
conversations

4137
02:54:40,870 --> 02:54:37,840
uh with people

4138
02:54:44,630 --> 02:54:40,880
where i have literally

4139
02:54:47,190 --> 02:54:44,640
skipped over talking about 2020

4140
02:54:51,510 --> 02:54:47,200
in my mind it's really weird

4141
02:54:54,790 --> 02:54:51,520
i'll go to 2019 i'll talk about 2021

4142
02:54:56,870 --> 02:54:54,800
2020 right okay so back to this is

4143
02:54:58,630 --> 02:54:56,880
getting back to my point

4144
02:55:01,349 --> 02:54:58,640
um

4145
02:55:03,429 --> 02:55:01,359
i'm in the middle of two three

4146
02:55:07,190 --> 02:55:03,439
tv series right now

4147
02:55:09,269 --> 02:55:07,200
and one of them is the morning show

4148
02:55:13,110 --> 02:55:09,279
and it's i i really like it i think it's

4149
02:55:14,469 --> 02:55:13,120
on a it's on apple apple plus apple tv

4150
02:55:17,510 --> 02:55:14,479
and uh

4151
02:55:19,670 --> 02:55:17,520
and it's it's really good

4152
02:55:20,469 --> 02:55:19,680
but

4153
02:55:23,110 --> 02:55:20,479
they

4154
02:55:23,990 --> 02:55:23,120
the the series and this is what tripped

4155
02:55:26,389 --> 02:55:24,000
me up

4156
02:55:28,550 --> 02:55:26,399
the series picked up where it left off

4157
02:55:30,389 --> 02:55:28,560
and uh

4158
02:55:33,190 --> 02:55:30,399
which was

4159
02:55:36,389 --> 02:55:33,200
uh new year's eve

4160
02:55:37,670 --> 02:55:36,399
uh 2019 going into 2020 and they're in

4161
02:55:39,670 --> 02:55:37,680
new york they're in manhattan they're

4162
02:55:41,269 --> 02:55:39,680
doing the countdown

4163
02:55:42,630 --> 02:55:41,279
you know these talks at morning talk

4164
02:55:46,790 --> 02:55:42,640
show host

4165
02:55:48,630 --> 02:55:46,800
and and they do that then they jump into

4166
02:55:50,950 --> 02:55:48,640
uh

4167
02:55:52,070 --> 02:55:50,960
like this this gap

4168
02:55:54,469 --> 02:55:52,080
where

4169
02:55:56,230 --> 02:55:54,479
2020

4170
02:55:59,349 --> 02:55:56,240
even though this is where the series is

4171
02:56:02,230 --> 02:55:59,359
taking place it's like vaporware it's

4172
02:56:04,469 --> 02:56:02,240
like a vortex it's like null and void

4173
02:56:06,070 --> 02:56:04,479
it's like blackness

4174
02:56:08,950 --> 02:56:06,080
it's like this really weird thing and i

4175
02:56:10,830 --> 02:56:08,960
was waiting for them to

4176
02:56:14,309 --> 02:56:10,840
to cover

4177
02:56:17,830 --> 02:56:14,319
it but it's not there and

4178
02:56:20,070 --> 02:56:17,840
i wasn't interested in it

4179
02:56:23,429 --> 02:56:20,080
i caught myself doing it

4180
02:56:26,309 --> 02:56:23,439
the tv show was doing it

4181
02:56:27,510 --> 02:56:26,319
how is is 2020 going to be represented

4182
02:56:31,030 --> 02:56:27,520
in the future

4183
02:56:34,150 --> 02:56:31,040
and uh is it a section of time

4184
02:56:35,830 --> 02:56:34,160
that is going to be cut out

4185
02:56:37,030 --> 02:56:35,840
there's nothing interesting there we

4186
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were all locked down we were in a

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pandemic

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the world stopped everything stopped and

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is it going to be represented in the

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future like

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2019 and

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2021 are gonna be butted together

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but 2020 is the year that didn't exist

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think about that that's where i'm at

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with this

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that's where i'm at time is tripping me

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out right now

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it is and and through all of this um

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uh thought processes and the research

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that i've been going going

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on with when it comes to time

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then the anticipation

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came up for my birthday weekend and you

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02:57:24,550 --> 02:57:23,200
know how birthdays are when you're when

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you're growing up and you can't wait to

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get to your birthday i wanted to see

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if i could get that feeling back

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02:57:37,190 --> 02:57:34,240
right because my last 10 15 20 birthdays

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i i don't even remember

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them

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i don't

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and i wanted to i wanted to have an

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anticipation there so how do i do that

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02:57:46,950 --> 02:57:46,000
well i planned it i planned it with

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02:57:48,950 --> 02:57:46,960
others

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02:57:50,790 --> 02:57:48,960
um there was lots of things that were

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02:57:52,630 --> 02:57:50,800
set up and i wanted to have that

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anticipation

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and uh

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02:57:57,910 --> 02:57:56,080
wondering how long it was gonna take for

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02:57:58,870 --> 02:57:57,920
my birthday to get here because i wanted

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02:58:01,510 --> 02:57:58,880
it so bad

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02:58:03,429 --> 02:58:01,520
and and i almost did it i felt pretty

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good about it

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and these are my little experi

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experiments right now

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02:58:11,429 --> 02:58:09,920
with time

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think about that

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02:58:19,110 --> 02:58:13,520
this is fade to black i am your host

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jimmy church time is fast i can um uh

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02:58:23,750 --> 02:58:22,160
i've got a case a case

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of watches

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right there

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and uh

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02:58:36,309 --> 02:58:33,600
the more research that i find out

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02:58:38,950 --> 02:58:36,319
uh about our own anatomy

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02:58:42,469 --> 02:58:38,960
and the way that our

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02:58:45,910 --> 02:58:42,479
cells work and think and operate around

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02:58:47,510 --> 02:58:45,920
a 24-hour schedule as does the rest of

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02:58:48,550 --> 02:58:47,520
this planet

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02:58:50,710 --> 02:58:48,560
right

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02:58:52,790 --> 02:58:50,720
think about that this is fade to black i

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02:58:54,469 --> 02:58:52,800
am your host jimmy church what a great

4244
02:58:55,510 --> 02:58:54,479
night on the show sorry my phone lines

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02:58:57,750 --> 02:58:55,520
blew out

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02:58:58,950 --> 02:58:57,760
um but that's the way it goes but i got

4247
02:59:02,389 --> 02:58:58,960
to end up

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02:59:04,230 --> 02:59:02,399
uh ranting about time it's been freaking

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02:59:07,830 --> 02:59:04,240
me out

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02:59:09,990 --> 02:59:07,840
fade to black is produced by hill j

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02:59:12,309 --> 02:59:10,000
palmer dennis and kevin

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02:59:14,550 --> 02:59:12,319
announcers are steve harder gene vettel

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02:59:17,309 --> 02:59:14,560
and mark t kovar webmaster drew the geek

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02:59:19,110 --> 02:59:17,319
music doug aldridge intro space boy

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02:59:21,030 --> 02:59:19,120
spaceboymusic.com faded black is

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produced by kjcr for the game changer

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02:59:25,030 --> 02:59:22,800
network this broadcast owned a

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02:59:27,030 --> 02:59:25,040
copyrighted 2021 by fade to black and

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02:59:29,190 --> 02:59:27,040
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02:59:31,510 --> 02:59:29,200
be rebroadcast downloaded copied or used

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02:59:33,030 --> 02:59:31,520
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02:59:34,790 --> 02:59:33,040
written permission from fade to black in

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02:59:36,870 --> 02:59:34,800
the game changer network our mail's

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02:59:39,190 --> 02:59:36,880
jimmy church tomorrow night right here

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02:59:40,950 --> 02:59:39,200
paul heineck what a great week we have

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02:59:43,830 --> 02:59:40,960
on the show i want to thank dr robert

4267
02:59:45,030 --> 02:59:43,840
davis just a fascinating conversation

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02:59:46,870 --> 02:59:45,040
tonight

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02:59:49,269 --> 02:59:46,880
and until tomorrow night i want

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02:59:54,750 --> 02:59:49,279
everybody to be safe

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02:59:57,520 --> 02:59:54,910
[Music]

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[Applause]